To want to hunt these parents down and shake them until they're sick?

[listsandbudgets]

Well maybe not but I'm furious.

DS seemed a bit clingy this morning but had a huge appetite and no temperature. I took him along to nursery as usual but by 10am they were phoning saying he was being violently sick along with FIVE other children in his room (only 14 there today).

Went along to get him to be quizzed extensively about whether or not he'd been sick in the last few days. Was able to truthfully say not.

They've just phoned saying they're really sorry but they've been speaking to everyone who has a child in that room (4 more had gone down by then) and found that one part time child was sent in yesterday despite having been sick all weekend but seeming a bit better on Monday morning.

So thanks to one set of parents deciding to ignore the 48 hour rule at least 9 other children are down with a horrible sickness bug and at least 9 sets of parents have to take time to off to care for their children who now can't go back until Friday.

Oh and there's a lot more washing as he's been sick 3 tiems since he got in and is now onto bile. He's sleeeping now My poor little boy.

AIBU to want to want to hunt the parents down and tell them exactly what I think of them?

Norovirus can absolutely definitely show up within 24 hours of infection, as others have said.

Also, I understand sometimes it's hard to take sick leave, but norovirus and the like can be very dangerous to some people, and 'they haven't been sick today so I'll send them in' is IMO really irresponsible, considering that everyone knows how very contagious it is, especially for children.

If your child was actively puking you'd have to find a carer, and it should be exactly the same for the two days afterwards.

As someone else said, it is contagious for up to two weeks, but very VERY contagious in the couple of days immediately following the symptoms, as the virus is exiting the body looking for a new host.

Please, please keep your kids off. A mistake is one thing, but not following the rules - which in this case really are there for a reason - is another.

That's funny, I was just reading this: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2810691/Two-young-children-hospital-E-coli-outbreak-nursery-school.html

' Catsize Tue 28-Oct-14 14:44:47
I get a bit confused by the 'but the parents couldn't take the time off' argument. Load of tosh. Why have children if you don't think about these things?'

That's easy to say but I wonder how many people have thought to themselves, 'I'd better not have children because my boss is unsympathetic about time off for sick kids and my mother, while healthy now, might have an accident in two years which will render her unable to help out with emergency childcare.'
And if they did say that we'd think they were crackers.

Always amuses me on these threads when an everyday 'bug' becomes norovirus!

Thanks everyone. I've calmed down now. DS has stopped being sick for now and has managed a little bit of milk though he's not interested in food yet.

Work have said I can do what I can from home. They've sent me a load of stuff by email and asked me to phone in every day and be available on the phone. I'm lucky not to have to take unpaid leave. Hope others are as fortunate as me.

Now I'm calm I suppose shaking them until they're sick would be a little bit unreasonable

erm, Norovirus is an everyday bug

OP YANBU, elderly people die from Norovirus, I've heard of at least two

don't mean to sound cheeky, but milk might not be a good idea when he has a bug - think general advice is to avoid dairy.

Hope he is over the worst now.

interesting cld it be something in nursery itself? the food, poor hygeine?

If it is norovirus you cant build immunity to it and can catch it again and again.

okay, prepared to be flamed here! Yes the other parents were selfish to send a sick child to nursery BUT your little boy could have picked up a bug from anywhere. Okay now the flame inducing part..... if you have a small child at nursery or school they will get sick, it is an inevitable part of life. I am sorry your little boy is ill and I hope he is better soon but they get sick. It is inconvenient and unpleasant but not surprising and you will have to take time off to look after them when they are sick!

I understand your desire to shake those parents.

When my DD had chicken pox, she couldn't go to the childminder because her policy was only to take a child with chicken pox if all parents agreed and the parents of child X didn't. Fair enough that was her policy but I lost two days pay because of it.

Two weeks later child X arrives at the childminder's and is sick. The parents are called and they admit he had been sick just before they dropped him off as well. Her policy was you had to be off for 48 hours after sickness. They were happy to ignore that policy because they wanted to go out for lunch.

It still annoys me, 5 years later. We stopped using the childminder soon after this as we left the country and she told me who the child was then before anyone suggests she was unprofessional to tell me.

Oh god help us I've just been sick. Feel all shaky and miserable too :(

This is going to be a fun night

You can most certainly get it that quick. I had Moro and can pinpoint exactly when I was exposed. Exposed between 7-8pm, woke up feeling nauseous at 3am, fetched a bucket and went back to sleep. Woke at 7am vomming and continued to com and shite at half hourly intervals for the next four days. Twas grim.

Gah phone. noro vom

Oh no lists hope it passes quickly

cantbelievethisishappening so you honestly think someone standing there telling you that a sickness bug is not contagious while the child is being sick is correct. Can you point me to any evidence that says sick as part of a sickness bug is uncontagious? The parent who told me that is quite happy to have as much time off as they need when they are ill, but sends their child back to nursery ASAP, in the middle of illness if necessary so they can get back to work. It shouldn't be one rule for you and a different one for your child.

I don't get paid if my children are ill and I can't work that day. Financially it makes the next month really tight, but it's part of my job as a parent to care for my child when they are sick.

Really, maybe it's because they have a unsupportive boss, maybe they need to be at work because they need to put food on the table, or buy much needed clothing, bigger nappies etc...

Well sorry but tough! You have kids then you are acknowledging at some point that this may happen. If I was a SAHM who went down with it and was struggling to care for my ill child would it be ok to send her to nursery? thought not!

What about the other parents who may also have an unsupportive boss and need money for food? How is one parent's job any more important than anyone elses? If I sent DD to nursery I would be exposing 20 other children, thats up to 40 parents and assuming a 2 children per family average, 20 more children. That up to 80 people (not including staff) that I would be exposing to a very nasty virus because I dont want to take a day unpaid.

Add into the fact that noro isnt just a vomiting bug for some people, I ended up on a drip after I last had it, and I cannot believe that any one would say "Oh well she probably needed to go to work!". How fucking selfish!

Hope it is a short term bug and you're both better soon.

Well said bogey, but we are in the minority it seems. OP, I am sorry to hear you are ill too. To those of you who happily wave your ill kids off to nursery (kids who, let's face it, would rather be ill at home), this is what you cause. But you won't care.

Yes bit of a dim comment 26.2miles ....

Immunity? To a bug? Please expand...

And hmc your input is er, what?

Yes, you get about 3 months immunity to Noro after you have had it, presumably to stop people catching it over and over and dying of dehydration/organ failure. A "bug" is a virus and you are afforded some immunity after you have caught it, some give you (usually) life long immunity such as measles or chicken pox, others much less such as Norovirus. There is a theory that the common cold is constantly mutating which is why you catch a cold over and over, you are not catching the same one but a minutely different one each time.

And yes, it is an everyday bug but that doesnt stop it being horribly debilitating and, to some people, very dangerous. Thats why you are told not to go to hospital. Some prat did at our local hospital recently and a lady who goes to our pub quiz has just got her mum back home after a hip op where the ward got closed due to Noro and her mum ended up in the HDU.