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to ghink pedestrians are also traffic?

8 replies

mausmaus · 28/10/2014 07:51

near my dc's school is a large building site.
that means traffic diversions and temporary traffjc lights every few weeks.
but never ever temporary traffic lights for a safe pedestrian crossing which means either a detour on foot of half a mile (to where the next safe traffic crossings are) or risking life and limb trying to guess when it is (reasonable) safe to cross shich is not easy with big building lorries and a difficult 3way crossing.

aibu to think that whoever puts up temporary traffic lights must also consider pedestrian traffic?

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bakingtins · 28/10/2014 07:54

YANBU, especially near a school. Complain to the council, it ought to be a condition of permission for the diversions etc that pedestrians are catered for.

FishWithABicycle · 28/10/2014 08:01

YANBU - complain to council, building company and your local mp. I regularly see temporary pedestrian traffic lights, they certainly exist.

FrancesNiadova · 28/10/2014 08:17

YANBU. I think that over here, pedestrians are very much at the bottom of the pecking order & if you're on crutches you're there to be screamed at, ( yes tw@t in the silver car who screamed at me as I crossed at the pelican crossing, I mean you ).
In France, the pedestrians always have right of way. Drivers actually stop to let people cross. Instead of being screamed at,traffic screeches to a halt if I go near a kerb. Merci citizen!
I think that the lack of thought giving to children crossing the road to school is a reflection of our petrol-dominated attitudes to the road.

GoldenGoat · 28/10/2014 08:21

YANBU. Similar situation where I live at the moment with pedestrians being forced out of the way to preserve the status quo for cars. Cars have 2 lanes too. Another place on my way to work, the council closed a safe underpass that avoids crossing an incredibly busy junction with no advance notice, was just closed one day and hasn't re-opened. If it was a road, there would be notices weeks in advance.

I think that pedestrians should always come first in any diversion plans. If that means an extra mile for cars, so be it. They're vehicles, they can handle it.

londonrach · 28/10/2014 08:34

Yanbu. Can the school talk to the contractors. near us they building some flats so have blocked the pavement for 6 months now (and half the road with no traffic lights, management in any way). The road is very busy so people just walk around the blockage as you cant cross the road as too many cars. About two months ago someone got knocked over doing just that. They still building and again the pavement is still blocked! I wish they did think of pedestrians. At the time the police closed the road and i did mention to the police lady is was accident waiting to happen. (From what i hear person knocked over was ok). Cant believe its still going on!

Andrewofgg · 28/10/2014 09:01

YANBU and not only during building works.

The area round Victoria Station is crossed by several very wide roads. During the rush hours the crossing points are rammed with pedestrians waiting for the green man. The phasing should be altered so that walking at a sensible pace they will always see the green man (it can be done for cars where if you keep at a certain speed you will have a clear run, I have seen it in Germany where it is called the Gruene Welle, the green wave) even if that slows down the wheeled traffic which it would. MNers lucky enough not to work in Central London will know similar examples in other places.

mausmaus · 28/10/2014 09:03

I have complained to the company (a large american one where no one answeres the phone and emails are ignored unanswered), the council and tfl

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 28/10/2014 09:19

I would include pedestrians - and animals - as traffic and work on the 'squishier than me' principle.

It sounds as if the planners of the works didn't envisage foot traffic perhaps? Definitely complain to the council, it's in the Highways Act definitely, might be chapter 8? Council will know. For speed, contact your local councillor and get them to take it up for you.

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