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To think that 'fart' is NOT a swear word!

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FartingIsntSwearing · 19/10/2014 22:10

OFSTED came to our school and I had my year 7 books taken in. One homework had been to write about an embarrassing incident and a boy had written about farting in class.

I was told the work in the books was a high standard and so on but inspector was surprised I hadn't 'pulled a child up for swearing in his book.'

Since WHEN was 'fart' a swear word!?

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TeamScotland · 20/10/2014 01:01

We (my bro and I) weren't allowed to use the word as children. My kids use it.

Farts are funny and so is the word. My kids use the word and a few others. DH, however, took exception to me using the expression 'dropped your guts' in front of the cherubs.

AcrossthePond55 · 20/10/2014 02:55

Oh, just remembered, my DS1 came up with this gem after belching at the dinner table when company was present when he was around 7;

Excuse me, excuse me
from the bottom of my heart,
If it'd come out the other end
It would've been a fart!

My mother was mortified!! Her dear friend, who had raised 4 boys, nearly died laughing.

FartingIsntSwearing · 20/10/2014 07:30

The words 'fuck, twat and dickhead' are regularly heard in the playgrounds of most secondary schools.

'Fart' doesn't seem worth getting upset about mainly because they always make me laugh

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CheeseEqualsHappiness · 20/10/2014 07:35

I wasn't slowed to use it and I don't let dd. I don't necessarily class it as a swear word though, just a word due to my own childhood I would prefer dd not to use until she is older. Adults in the house use it though

catsmother · 20/10/2014 08:29

It's not a swear word though clearly many people find it offensive and/or "vulgar".

What I don't understand though is why that is .... it's a word, and not usually an insult. When it's used as one, as in "old fart" for example, I'd consider that to be one of the milder insults someone could choose - indeed, I've also heard that phrase used practically as a term of endearment.

I can only think it must be because so much embarrassment and/or "shame" still surrounds discussion of the less attractive aspects of digestion ?! ..... e.g. many people find talking about bowel related issues even with their GP pretty excruciating, and would also baulk at confiding such things with their nearest and dearest however worried they might be. There definitely seems to be this attitude of "we don't mention things like that in public" so far as farting is concerned and therefore because it seems to be viewed as almost "shameful" by some it stands to reason that the noun/verb also becomes a "nasty" word perhaps ?

Now, I'm not condoning farting itself - in any and all situations - as okay. I hate it when people make no effort to control themselves or leave the room to do one - or worse deliberately squeeze out a fart and think the resulting stink they've imposed on others is hilarious ..... but there are occasions when it genuinely can't be helped, e.g. if you have various stomach problems and can't get out in time, and when it's clear that someone hasn't deliberately been offensive I think it just adds to their embarrassment if others react in a horrified way. It's all part and parcel of this whole taboo surrounding anything to do with your bum - poo, farting, piles etc - and I personally think that's ridiculous and contributes to people delaying seeking help or confiding their problems in others, e.g. as part of a polite apology for farting in company by explaining you have bad IBS right now or whatever.

While people still clutch their pearls at the word "fart" they impart a power to it which it shouldn't have. Why does there need to be a euphemism - and often very silly childish ones - for "fart" ? Sure, "breaking wind" is, I think, the "correct" and "formal" term for releasing gas via your anus but to me, it's far more efficient to use a shorter term whenever possible. And yes, I agree that unless you're giggling in the playground, most of us probably don't have genuine cause to talk about farting very often but on the rare occasions we do, why not call a fart a fart ? ...... it's quick, and there can be no mistaking what is meant whereas this thread demonstrates that several of the many different euphemisms can mean different things to different people.

I'd be really interested to hear why those who find it offensive don't like it ......

MrsMook · 20/10/2014 08:39

My DCs are young, so it's trump around them. It's not too twee for adult company. Fart is a bit crude for young children. I use it on adult company.

In the context of a y7 writing about an embarrassing incident, it is with the realms of acceptable.

Unfortunately I have IBS attacks so it does end up being a subject of discussion. When my pelvic floor was damaged for months after birth, I had no idea that I was farting until the stench hit and I recognised the toxic brew.
I recommend industrial strength probiotics!

Autocorrect is being oversensitive about fart. Farm. Honestly!

Dawndonnaagain · 20/10/2014 08:48

Fart is not crude. It's a perfectly normal description of a bodily function. It's not like shit and poo, it is an acceptable and comprehensible word for all ages.

StrumpersPlunkett · 20/10/2014 08:52

The way I describe it to my boys is that it is a less polite way of saying trump which is what we call it in our house.
DS's friend calls them parp parps / parping.

and just because there are major swear words used in senior school it doesn't mean that we would condone/encourage less than polite language in primary schools.

squoosh · 20/10/2014 09:01

Parp is more polite than fart?

Ummm, how exactly?

hackmum · 20/10/2014 09:01

Neither of my parents would ever have used the word "fart". I find it difficult to say even now, though both DP and DD use it with abandon.

I don't think it's a swear word, though. Times change.

Passmethecrisps · 20/10/2014 09:12

Interesting discussion!

My 2yo calls it a pumpy. No idea why as I have never called it anything. She likes to announce quite po faced "I pumpy'd" or "I burped"

Anyway, as a secondary school teacher (but not English) I think we encourage the pupils to use approach language within context. There are few things more cringy than reading a piece of work where the child has written about personal experience in a completely alien way.

The child writing about farting and using their own word gets across their own personal experience.

On the positive, your school must be exceptional for this to be all the inspectors could find to comment on Grin

HavanaSlife · 20/10/2014 09:20

The little ones dont say fart, the 3 year old says poo trump stinks while trying to waft it away with his hands

thegreylady · 20/10/2014 09:21

My dgc used to say 'got farty pants' when they were little but trump is the accepted word at school. Singing 'Nelly the Elephant' with boys can be hilarious. I grew up saying 'pump' but fart is normal here now.

Spindarella · 20/10/2014 09:25

If fart is a swear word then so is burp.

lecherrs · 20/10/2014 09:37

The dictionary app on my phone identifies all swear words by putting 'vulgar' at the start of the definition. It does this for fuck, crap, twat and wanker for example but does not denote fart as a 'vulgar' term.

I'd say not the nicest term to use, and when my DDs were younger I encouraged them to use alternatives, but once they get to secondary, that is the sort of language they use. If my students used twat / crap / wanker in class, they'd get a raised eyebrow from me, but I wouldn't correct a student for saying fart.

Most bizarre!

SunshineDaisiesButterMellow · 20/10/2014 10:33

Completely agree with catsmothers post.

We do use fart here although when referring to 18 month old ds we say fartoos no idea how and when we started saying it but I caught myself saying it this morning.

BackforGood · 20/10/2014 10:58

The words 'fuck, twat and dickhead' are regularly heard in the playgrounds of most secondary schools

The key point there though, is "heard in the playgrounds". A key part of maturing is realising that you can speak differently in different scenarios / in different company. Surely part of the role of teachers is to explain that - we do it in Nurseries, and in Primary schools, so I'm not sure why secondary staff wouldn't continue to help the pupils learn that if they've not grasped it by that age.
The way you conduct yourself in an interview is likely to be different from the way you conduct yourself on a weekend away with your mates. I suspect most people know that they would be 'on show' when meeting in laws for the first time, or being shown round prior to a job interview, etc.

In the same way, the language you use when hanging with your mates in the playground or the park, is or should be different from the language you use in the classroom, and especially in a piece of writing.

CherryDolphin · 20/10/2014 11:01

Where I'm from "pump" is considered to be the polite word. I prefer fart.

squoosh · 20/10/2014 11:02

Obviously 'fart' is not a swear word and therefore cannot be compared to 'fuck'. To me it's no different to saying 'wee' instead of 'urinate'.

JellyDiamonds · 20/10/2014 11:21

Sorry, but the word "part, "pump" and "trump" sound ridiculous coming from anyone over the age of about six. And if anyone ever told me that they'd just "broken wind" I think I'd wet myself laughing. It just sounds so ridiculous!

FartingIsntSwearing · 20/10/2014 11:24

Yes but it is hardly in the same league as dickhead et al is what I meant!

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olbas · 20/10/2014 11:32

My mum wouldn't allow us to use the word fart...we had to call it " a rude noise" Grin

pigleychez · 20/10/2014 12:30

We say Popped but I wouldn't say Fart was a swear word!

I guess people have different perceptions of things.. DD1's friend (6) on friday after school was sniggering at playing Top Trumps as 'trump' was a swear word. I was sniggering when DD1 (also 6) then asked 'What's a swear word?' :)

alemci · 20/10/2014 12:33

I think fart is vulgar but not a swear word. Maybe flatulence would have been a better word to use but I think Ofsted are being a bit petty.

alemci · 20/10/2014 12:35

I grew up in a family where we didn't talk about such things but my dh is different and said I just blew off. nice.

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