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AIBU to be upset to the reaction of this? re littering

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alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:20

I posted on a forum, about the littering in my nearest town
I know it's common everywhere sadly but whenever I'm there I see people dropping litter
I mentioned today how the man walking in front of me dropped litter. It was very deliberate and he was laughing as he did so. I didn't say anything because he'd just come out of the pub (in afternoon). My ex is a violent alcoholic so I wouldn't risk any confrontation with a stranger. I later picked up the litter and binned out once he was out of view.
So I went on a local forum which after all, is for most people to say what they've seen, vent, etc etc , anything related to that town really (good or bad)
Possibly shouldn't have posted when I'm pre menstrual, and struggling with depression. Am anon on it but of course not to the the site owners

What has really saddened (and disappointed) me is the replies

Only ONE person agreed with me and said littering is their pet hate
All other replies were negative e.g. telling me to move town if i didnt like it,, to stop being paranoid, to worry about something else, that littering is good (!) as it creates work for those to pick it up , that it's 'only dropping litter and no one cares' and that if the man was possibly drunk then what's wrong with him dropping litter as he had good reason, etc. Many replies said I was judgemental to judge a man for only dropping litter when I know nothing about him! and how wrong it is to 'attack' someone on Facebook for dropping litter. ( I didnt name him or even describe him physically... i have no idea who he is!) and condemning me for not saying anything to him (he was with others and I think i'd have got a big earful if not worse)
AIBU to think it's a sorry state of affairs when people would rather defend litter bugs than agree with someone that littering is depressing and unacceptable.
The next post to follow was someone else complaining in a similar way i.e. litter being thrown out of a car. At least that kind of backed me up but that didnt get any negative reaction (yet)

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alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:22

the town is also well known for its problem with drug addicts and alcoholics hanging around a certain part of it in daytime. Meant to be a dry town but it's never enforced. They leave 'litter' around in shape of syringes, broken bottles etc. Ok so today's litter is not as bad as that but I can't believe 99% of replies thought it was completely acceptable. The more it's accepted, the more litter there will be. Can't believe people are blasé about that

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alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:25

it's a very white, very english market town and they don't like newcomers like me. One (racist) reply got 17 likes...

''Think whole of Britain is the same ! Why worry about litter when Muslims are taking over the country !!!''

I also got called a snob for caring about litter

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stoopstoconker · 10/10/2014 21:26

YANBU I can't stand deliberate littering, it's thoughtless and selfish. I especially hate people who throw cigarette ends from cars.

alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:32

the replies keep coming and they're still negative saying who cares about litter. Cannot believe people want to live like that. When did rubbish ever become acceptable. It would be a pretty town otherwise. Some of the replies are quite nasty. I wish I hadn't moved here, but I'm not in the town , 4 miles away in a very rural area. so i keep reminding myself that. it wouldnt be accepted in my village (more hamlet)...
i just find it all really depressing. And I'm certainly not a slob. I live in a messy falling apart cottage lol (Dp's) but littering is gross, end of.

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alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:33

yes i hate the cig ends out of cars... most people don't seem to view it as rubbish.
Snob not slob re reply before this one.

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alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:34

Because i can be a slob lol but not with litter!

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alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:36

i actually think most of the replies are written by snobs. They can't stand anyone new commenting on 'their' town if it's in any way negative. They can't stand anyone new, full stop. That's what I call snobbish.. not what I wrote re the eyesores of the town

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FannyFifer · 10/10/2014 21:36

Stop reading the messages.The local forum, Facebook type groups for my local area just seem to attract the scum bag element as well.

Mintyy · 10/10/2014 21:38

Honestly, you need to de-reg from that forum! It is obviously populated by fools.

wooooosualsuspect · 10/10/2014 21:44

Just leave the forum. Or take the piss out of the members.

alltoomuchrightnow · 10/10/2014 21:49

yes I will, as I'm just winding myself now. I've just got called a snob again as littering is just 'people being people' and to get over myself

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Idefix · 10/10/2014 21:53

Step away from the forum, whether they think they are snobs or not they are as others have suggested v scummy. Dropping litter is not ok. I think many of our societies ills seem to start with casual acceptance of lowering standards littering is just one of many slippery slopes.
You will feel so much better if you don't read these types of negative comments, it won't change the litter situation though...

Idefix · 10/10/2014 21:53

*not

ChelsyHandy · 10/10/2014 23:21

Sounds like an odd bunch of people with bad habits have collected together in one place OP! You are not U, by the way.

CadleCrap · 10/10/2014 23:33

Can't believe the reaction of some people.

I hate litter and have passed this onto my kids, to the extent they have a quick litter sweep of the play ground before they start playing. Don't worry they wash their hands afterwards.

AgentZigzag · 10/10/2014 23:43

Are you sure you didn't accidentally post it on AIBU? Grin

Some people are out to wind you up, who would honestly say that litter adds to their life experience? Grin

Not people you'd want to know really, even if they're just arguing the toss because they're bored.

It's about the general feel of the environment you live in, and litter can add to the feeling of decay in some places, or why would so many people take so much time/money to clean it up?

I pick litter up sometimes, or fast walk run after people to say they've dropped something if I see them doing it. You're not alone.

Get on to your council and tell them to do a better job!

alltoomuchrightnow · 11/10/2014 00:47

thank you. Glad to know it's not just me. I was a 70s/ 80s kid and litter was a real biggie. Biggest punishment at my junior school was being made to go litter picking on school grounds! Very humiliating, it was!

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AgentZigzag · 11/10/2014 00:55

'it's a very white, very english market town and they don't like newcomers like me. One (racist) reply got 17 likes...'

I didn't read that bit properly first time around, the problem isn't really with their attitude to littering is it?

Have you reported the post/thread?

You should leave the thread be really, it's not going to do you any good trying to talk to people who can only manage that level of discussion.

alltoomuchrightnow · 11/10/2014 01:29

They're always Muslim / traveller bashing on it (and the polish, romanians, etc etc; having lived in London for the last five years I hate coming back to these small minded attitudes even though I'm white middle class and from a home county near this one but I certainly don't share these prejudices - it's all been a bit of culture shock to come back after some years away and learn there really are people like this out there.. e.g. 'you're not from around these parts so fuck off back to where you belong' - even though I am kind of from around or near here! Sometimes wish I wasn't) . I can't remove the thread nor can I block the site. So I guess I just have to summon enough willpower to ignore it all...all it's doing is winding me up and depressing me!

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CheeseToastie123 · 11/10/2014 02:00

OP, Are you in Norfolk? Not asking to be off, but you are describing a very obvious situation if not...

alltoomuchrightnow · 11/10/2014 02:14

no, Cheese

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