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To think the dishwasher should be run when it is full?

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CruCru · 08/10/2014 15:54

DH is taking some time off work and today has proposed that we only run the dishwasher when we go to bed, regardless of whether it is full or not.

If it fills up in the day then he wants us to leave all the dirty stuff on top, run it overnight and then fill it up again the next day.

If we forget to run it overnight, he wants us to only run it the next night.

AIBU to think this is going to be a nightmare? We'll have dirty dishes sitting around like in my old house share. It isn't as though the dishwasher is noisy.

OP posts:
Surfsup1 · 09/10/2014 06:23

To summarise, our society is becoming obsessed with risk and paralysed by fear.
It really is important to look at the real risks we face before allowing irrational fears to alter our behaviour.

MrsDavidBowie · 09/10/2014 06:27

Mine is usually on twice a day. If h started trying to enforce petty little rules, he would get short shrift.

CruCru · 09/10/2014 07:48

All who have DH's who have brought in this flask system - why don't you suggest a boiling tap? We have one, they are made by Quooker and now don't have a kettle.

OP posts:
BellaVita · 09/10/2014 07:52

Ours goes on when it is full. I cannot be doing with pots and pans hanging around.

FunkyBoldRibena · 09/10/2014 08:13

Flask men. Stop this insane nonsense. And just measure the water you need. Or get a one cup kettle. We've had one for about 6 years. Fab.

Washing machines, dishwashers etc overnight - stop this insane nonsense. Put them on when they are full and you might live to empty the bastard.

whois · 09/10/2014 08:22

Lack of ability to logically and rationally asses risk is a huge bug bear of mine.

If I didn't put the washing machine or dishwasher on over night or when we are out, we would never get any washing done!

Home for a maximum of 3 awake hours a night often. I'd rather not have my only time to chill, eat dinner and watch TV dominated by the washing machine spin.

I don't know anyone who has had a fire from a household appliance.

Know plenty of people who have been in a car accident tho. And one who died as a result of a fire in a car. Now that is beyond awful. Still jump in my car without crippling fear though.

Mrsjayy · 09/10/2014 09:06

I can't believe people don't put appliance s on if they are going out or in bed

skyeskyeskye · 09/10/2014 09:29

www.itv.com/news/2014-05-27/hotpoint-bosch-dishwasher-safety-recall-how-to-check-your-machine/

This is the link for the Hotpoint and Bosch models affected. My friends was one of them.

cooki3monst3r · 09/10/2014 10:01

I am utterly shocked at all these people suggesting it is over the top not to have appliances running over night.

Thousands of fires are caused every year by household appliances. The worst being washing machines. And people DO die.

Yes, sometimes you just need to get stuff done and it is statistically a small risk. If I need to, I'll leave machines on when we're out during the day. That's enough of a risk for me.

But at night when by precious babies are asleep in their beds? No way!

I do think our dependency on technology has made everyone complacent these days. When I was a child my parents (policeman and nurse) would turn off every plug in the house before they went to bed. If I do that my DH goes mad because the wifi has gone off and the somethingorother needs resetting in the morning. Hmm

I will always make sure nothing is left running or charging but still feel uncomfortable with the plugs left switched on. And I always make sure all the doors are shut.

Mrsjayy · 09/10/2014 10:14

Tbf I don't put anything on over night as I live in a flat but I really have never given aa dishwasher washing machine tumble drier a second thought when im going out.

Mrsjayy · 09/10/2014 10:16

My parents pull out every plug at night except the fridge but my dad would if he could get away with it,

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks · 09/10/2014 13:07

Surfsup - Why is it not a rational fear? It actually happened to us, an appliance did set alight - therefore it is totally rational that it could in theory happen again. I am not saying it will, but I am saying it is a possibility.
I do not sit watching the machine the whole time, I do not sit in fear that the dishwasher will suddenly set alight. I set it going and I leave the kitchen and go about whatever I needed to do elsewhere in the house - watch the TV, make lunch, sort the kids etc. Same goes for all my appliances. I do however take reasonable precautions.
We have smoke detectors, we have a safe exit route out of the back of the house avoiding the kitchen if needs be, and we do not run the washing machine, dishwasher, or tumble dryer at night.
The point is that we were in the position where we realised that had that machine set alight whilst we were in bed we may not have been alerted to the fire until the damage was a lot worse. We could have woken to a serious house fire which would have been unthinkably awful.
That is a risk we are not willing to take.
Feel free to mock me all you like. I do not sit in fear of my appliances like you make out. I set them running and pop in and out of the kitchen like I would be doing anyway (making a cuppa or sorting tea, or getting something I have forgotten etc) and if anything looks or smells odd I investigate. That is it. I haven't changed how I live other than I just stopped running the machines at night.

YackityYakYak · 09/10/2014 13:29

But doesn't SOMETHING have to be the primary cause of house fires? Doesn't make it COMMON, just not UNCOMMON.

The fuse box means fires from other electrical appliances are very rare.

Open fires are less and less common now.

People don't leave things on the stove for hours on end, they use slow cookers or faster methods of cooking. We also cook with way less oil, so fires from cooking oil are rarer.

Candles are now a luxury, not a necessity, so you really only light them when you're there to enjoy them.

Far less people smoke in the house now, so less fires from cigarette butts.

What else is left?! Dishwashers, washing machines, dryers and phone chargers, that's what. Of COURSE they're going to be the main cause of fires!

Not that I'm saying to just ignore it, but don't make it sound like it's happening absolutely everywhere.

Personally I set my washing machine and dryer timer to start roughly as I get up, so that I'm awake when it's on. I'm never organised enough to get a load on first thing in the morning if I don't do this.

MissMooMoo · 09/10/2014 16:26

I run mine when its full, doesnt matter what time of day it is!

Surfsup1 · 10/10/2014 00:20

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks I really wan't trying to mock you, but if you're willing to make unnecessary car trips without worrying about it, then logically, worrying about an appliance fire is irrational. Understandable, as I said, seeing as it's happened to you, but statistically illogical.
The fact that it's happened to you probably makes it even less probable that it will happen again to you (unless there was another underlying issue with your home's electrics).

I can totally understand why you worry about it, but other people worrying about it is far less clear. Like people who won't let their children walk to school for fear of abduction or people who won't swim in the ocean for fear of sharks - understandable i you've been directly effected, but not logical.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 10/10/2014 00:51

I'm guessing most people who get in cars to drive also take precautions basic stuff like seat belts,not being under the influence of anything or to ill to be aware of other road users that sort of thing. It's called doing your best to reduce risk in a reasonable way.

So not unlike electing not to use appliances when everybody is asleep

Surfsup1 · 10/10/2014 00:58

It's about comparable risk. Don't run your appliances at night if you want, but there's no logical way of saying it's a big risk compared to other activities we regularly undertake without a second thought.

No matter how many precautions you take, driving your car is more dangerous than running machines at night and yet no one raises an eyebrow.

Surfsup1 · 10/10/2014 01:00

It's called doing your best to reduce risk in a reasonable way.

This is how people justify not swimming in the ocean or not allowing their children to walk to school as I mentioned below. I can understand people having these fears, but they are not logical.

Surfsup1 · 10/10/2014 01:07

Just to clarify - I only mentioned that the fear wasn't logical because it sounded like LittleprincessinGOLDrocks was actually letting the situation worry her. She has since clarified that this is really not the case.

Not running the dishwasher at night hurts no one and if it makes you feel more comfortable then that's great.

I didn't mean to start a debate about risk and fear. Did a pretty good job of it though!! Grin Blush

Bogeyface · 10/10/2014 01:09

Just because running your dishwasher overnight is a statistically smaller risk than driving to work doesnt mean that you should do it!

You dont need to run an appliance over night, but you do need to get to work. So you balance the risk. What is the worst thing that will happen if I dont drive to work? I will lose my job, my financial security and my home. What will happen if I dont run the washing machine over night? I will have to run it while I am watching my favourite TV programme and will have to keep the kitchen door shut.

Not at all comparable.

Surfsup1 · 10/10/2014 04:46

But being scared of running your dishwasher overnight and not scared of driving is not logical.

I'm not saying you should run your dishwasher over night. My comment was on LittlePrincess's "fear". Nothing wrong with taking steps to reduce risk if it doesn't hurt anyone or interfere with your life, but to allow yourself to be fearful about a small risk is where the irrationality kicks in.

My point about driving was pretty clearly about unnecessary trips not driving to work. Although, logically, if you're "scared" of running a dishwasher overnight then you should be bloody terrified of driving to work as it is SO much more dangerous.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/10/2014 04:50

It's called a cost:benefit analysis. I can run my dishwasher in the day with no additional cost to me. Benefit is a slightly reduced risk of dying in a fire. I would lose my job if I didn't drive. BIG cost.

Surfsup1 · 10/10/2014 05:28

I think you've really missed my point.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/10/2014 05:47

I think you may have missed mine.

Surfsup1 · 10/10/2014 07:35

I think I've answered it a number of times actually. See below where I specifically said I was not comparing driving to work with the dishwasher thing. I don't think it's illogical to turn off you dishwasher at night. I think it's illogical to be SCARED about it.