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to ask if you would take a drug, dna or lie detector test

42 replies

kiki0202 · 08/10/2014 09:51

I'm watching Jeremy Kyle (I know I know) and the guy is refusing to take a drug test I've seen a few of these type of things where people refuse to take tests and it's got me wondering why would you refuse unless your lying??

When I fell pg with DS DP didn't think he could have children and I thought quite often what if someone questions if it was DP's child (no one did) I thought I would have happily gave a dna test but a friend said she would have be furious to be accused of something like that and refused if it was her.

So If you were accused of lying/cheating/stealing by anyone would you prove it or refuse on principle?

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LiverpoolLou · 08/10/2014 14:00

I wouldn't do a lie detector test because I don't trust the results. I'd do the others to prove myself before ending the relationship. As for appearing on JK, I think your relationship is already over if you've reached the point of considering it.

RonaldMcDonald · 08/10/2014 14:15

I'd always refuse

Letthemtalk · 08/10/2014 14:20

Depending on the circumstances I would take a DNA/drugs test, because they are pretty reliable. No way would I ever take a lie detector test as they are very unreliable. I feel for people who take them, it suggests they are lying and they still say they are telling the truth. They very well may be telling the truth!

EveDallasRetd · 08/10/2014 14:23

I'd happily do a drug or DNA test (have had regular drug tests as part of my job), but prob wouldn't do a lie detector test because they are so unreliable and easily beaten/corrupted

Vitalstatistix · 08/10/2014 14:26

Not on the telly, no.

and lie detectors cannot tell if you are telling the truth or not. They can only tell if you are having physical things that could indicate an emotional response. If you don't give a shit that you are lying, a lie detector cannot tell. You could be telling the truth but upset about the situation and it would register a response that could be interpreted as a lie.

I would take a dna or drugs test though. Because they are scientifically sound and reliable. And when I had the results, I would get the apology I was due and terminate the relationship/resign/go NC (depending on who had accused me)

smokeandglitter · 08/10/2014 14:31

We-ll, it depends.

You can have results from passive smoking of cannabis etc. as I did once in hospital as I was living with weed smokers at the time (Uni). I hate it and it triggers mental health problems even through passive exposure. It meant my housemates had to come in and explain themselves to the doctor along with my social worker who was aware I did not smoke it but they did.

If I was worried about people not believing it wasn't my smoke or exposing a friend's habit addiction then I may not take it.

airforsharon · 08/10/2014 14:31

DNA or drug test yes. Lie detector no, no way. They are no way accurate enough.

I've seen JK a few times and find the emphasis on the validity of a lie detector result disturbing. A few hundred years ago I'm sure JK would've been in charge of the ducking stool.

WannaBe · 08/10/2014 14:32

The relationship would be over at the point my dp suggested we go on Jeremy Kyle. Grin

Seriously though, it would depend on the reasons. Drug test for a job/scene of an accident that sort of thing yes I would as I have nothing to hide. DNA test - no. If my child's father wanted a DNA test it would presumably be so he could deny paternity and therefore absolve himself of responsibility for his child in which case he could do it through the CSA's official channels.

I wouldn't take a lie detector though on the basis they are highly unreliable so there would seem little point.

EvilRingahBitch · 08/10/2014 14:58

If you have actual form for drug abuse then lying about use is a classic symptom, and your credibility will be suspect for a very long period - objecting to being doubted is not sustainable.

OTOH if you're going to rely on a "lie detector" test to find if your OH is cheating you might as well ask a Magic 8 Ball.

BoomBoomsCousin · 08/10/2014 15:11

My default position would be to refuse routine testing, but I'd be open to taking a drug or DNA test in some circumstances. Not lie detector though because my understanding is that they aren't particularly accurate and they could muddy the waters further.

I'd take a DNA test for a child if my Partner had some reason to be surprised they had a child in the making (like dates not matching, or thinking they were infertile), it would effect the way I think about them, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

Not sure I'd take a job that had routine drug testing unless there was a lot at stake (e.g. a bus driver responsible for split level decision making with lives in danger), there had been problems in the past and there were safeguards in place (such as not routinely handing info to police, only testing for drugs that impact the job, audits on the security of the testing process etc.). Not that I take drugs, but I don't think it's something that should be strongly policed except where it causes problems.

crazykat · 08/10/2014 15:19

If DH didn't believe one of our DCs were his I'd take a DNA test as I know the only way it would show they weren't his is if they weren't mine.

I would, however, be absolutely raging and it would be the end of our relationship.

I'd also take a drug test as I never have and never will take illegal drugs. A lie detector test I'd be more likely to refuse out of bloody mindedness though even if I was innocent. If you can't trust someone you're in a relationship with unless they take a lie detector then you should be questioning if you're right for each other IMO.

sashh · 08/10/2014 15:44

I wouldn't take a drugs test because it would be positive for opiates. I have them on prescription, nothing illegal but they would show up.

ilovechristmas1 · 08/10/2014 17:58

same as sash im on medication which would show methadone i think,so would have to take a more specialist test

me and my son had to take a DNA test for CSA,never did get any money out of the deadbeat (he told them our son was not his)

catgirl1976 · 08/10/2014 18:30

I'd take a drugs test at work if I had to as since having DS I would pass with flying colours. However, unless I worked in a job where I could see the need for it I would have an issue in terms of civil liberty.

I'd take a lie detector test if I was falsely accused of something and I could see the point, but not in a relationship.

sykadelic · 08/10/2014 18:52

Well, I honestly think DNA tests should be mandatory for both parents. It would solve a lot of issues with Dad's denying their kids, accidental swaps (however rare) and guys finding out years down the line they were lied to.

If my husband asked for a DNA test, I'd do it of course, but it'd be done sadly, not angrily. It's a HUGE amount of trust, but nothing a woman does will ever compare because only you know, with absolute certainty, that it's your kid. I'd be hurt that he didn't trust me, but I'd also try to understand that he felt he needed that certainty.

Drug test, no problem.

Lie detector, I'd be worried about failing, even if I was telling the truth, which would throw the test off so probably not.

Bulbasaur · 08/10/2014 19:01

A lie detector test is a cute movie gimmick and nothing more. All it proves is that you're nervous. Also, if you're a good liar, you'll pass the test no problem.

No, I wouldn't even agree to be on the show, let alone take a test. I'm not really a wave your dirty laundry to the world type of person. What they choose to believe isn't my problem.

But assuming I'm already on the show and getting paid to appear, I'd probably go along with it for the sake of good entertainment.

ilovechristmas1 · 08/10/2014 19:03

yep i have always thought DNA should be mandatory to,no idea how it woild be policed but would save a hell of alot of heartache and suprises in the e i read it future on all sides

cant remember where i read it but supposedly there are thousands of men bringing up kids that are not theirs and the child or male has no idea

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