in thinking my neighbour should get her own wifi and buy her own effing lawnmower!

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My neighbour really take the piss. She's just come round pen and paper in hand asking for my wifi password! Obviously i said no! but my god how can someone have the cheek haha!
In the past she's asked to borrow my lawn mower came back broken. Borrowed my garden shears came back broken. since then obviously not borrowed anything again. although she still asks, money, lifts etc and every time i say no. She's regularly jumping over my garden fence (which yep she has broken) in her onesie running around after her new kitten another neighbour called the police on her for jumping into their garden to get to the garden of her friend next door! which she still does
I don't use my garden anymore because I can guarantee she'll pop her head over the fence asking for something. I even find her son in my garden playing on our slide! she throws all her fag ends in my garden (I throw them back!) and has even thrown her child's old bike in my garden (I threw that back too!) someone tell me your neighbour is worse than mine!

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Tasked by whom, JOOI ?

I can smell our neighbour's cannabis over even curry I cook.

I should add that my long term neighbours next door are absolutely lovely and I wouldn't think twice about lending them money whenever they asked. Or anything. Just as if I needed it I would go around and ask (I haven't in the last ten years, but you never know).

They have been lifesavers this summer.

This is the same neighbour that came around at 8.15am with a cup in her hand asking for some sugar. I blinked a bit at that.

I think she is in a tough spot and to be honest I don't think she has had an easy time. I just don't think that it would help if I just kept 'lending' 20p, sugar, milk, etc.

lisa someone who hasn't got quite enough for a pint of milk? Maybe she needs nappies?

Some people are poor...believe it or not! I lent a neighbout a fiver last week. She asked for a pound. :( She brought it back a few days later. Now she can ask me again and I will give it.

we are careful who we let onto our wifi. If they download something dodgy it come back to our address with no proof of who downloaded it.

So we would be responsible and possibly criminally liable.

LurkingHusband -I say tasked as muggins here has to drive and DH work the laptop whereas there's an entire department who could also take a turn. It's a funded project - I'm not sure who by - probably a computer security company. The data compiled doesn't identify nor give names, just generic details and areas.

our neighbours bury dead bodies in the patch of grass adjacent to our garden wall.

OK hagarthorne you win

Another reason to be wary of who you let have your wifi password... when I moved out of my mum's house I was the one paying for the internet, so I agreed to continue paying for it until the contract ran out so my mum and siblings could use it.

In the next 6 months my then teenage brother set up a server using our internet service, to host games for his online "friends". This is my vague understanding of what he did anyway.

I didn't find out until I got a bill for just over a grand because he had used up the "unlimited" broadband I had signed up for. He claimed he didn't know it would end up costing money (and yet he knew enough to figure out how to do it in the first place)! Still haven't quite forgiven him for that one.

seriously though if my neighbour sees me with anything she will decide she needs to borrow it! the wifi has topped it though, should have got my own pen and paper and asked for her account details so she can contribute towards my direct debit she knocks the door windows rings the bell and shouts my name, she even came around the back knocking once! I only answered today because I thought it was my delivery lol! oh and the other week she stole my wheelie bin so she could have two! I took it back. she even told me why she took it, like it was a normal thing to do!

My BIL lives a few doors down and once asked me for our WIFI password, he is OH's brother so I didn't want to say no.

Pisses me off though and I make sure if we're not using I that it's off.

In-fact sometimes out of spite if I know he is in [he works shifts] I take great delight in turning it off and on every 15 minutes or so... I know he streams films and music online!!!

wow pourqoui, did you have to pay that bill?

Have you moved in to my old house, op? If so, DO NOT LEND THEM YOUR PHONE! :D

There's no law that makes you responsible for what happens on your internet connection, if you didn't know about it. And it would be up to any prosecution to prove that knowledge, not for you to (impossibly) prove a negative.

Quite a few BT HomeHub3s provide a semi-publicly available hotspot (using a limited proportion of your bandwidth). If you're a BT customer, and have a "BTWiFi" hotspot - it's probably your router. The idea being to build a community of hotspots that BT Customers can use (again, if you are a BT customer this is how your access to BT hotspots is provided).

Personally my router is locked down, so only known devices can use it. Also I have hidden the SSID, so it won't appear in a scan list.

I borrow my neighbour's lawnmower all the time...

Mamma I take great delight in turning it off and on every 15 minutes or so... I know he streams films and music online!!!

I have literally done a Crusty the Clown-esque laugh at that

I borrow my neighbours wi-fi from time to time. I am skint, have tried to change my payment date to DP's pay date and bastarding, cunting, fucking talk talk won't do that, so I get cut off sometimes. It is usually only for a day or so and I would do the same for them. We help each other out and are good friends.

Clapyourhands or someone who has been scrounging tramadol of other neighbours, who has fourteen people living in the four bed house (not typo or exaggeration) and who has several agencies involved. I do think, 'there but for the grace of God go I' but I also think it was an invitation for me to say, 'here you go, here's a quid' etc. There is a load going on but if I put everything no-one would believe me.

When I was a kid there was not enough food to go round. I remember that feeling, and I've been pretty close myself. However this was a bit more chancing it.

Cheeky as!

Lived in a flat before where someone kept using my bin. So i changed my wifi name to 'flat 2, bin 2'. Check me out being all passive aggressive.

I must live in a too polite neighbourhood, none of this shit happens.

I have one elderly neighbour who is v sweet and I'd be more than happy to let them use my wifi as TBH it would be easier than helping him with his computer all the time.

Other neighbour who is fit and well and has a job - no, they can pay for their own.

There's no law that makes you responsible for what happens on your internet connection,
HomeHusband I suggest you look up the cases where people have been in trouble with their ISP and/or the law because their broadband has been used for illegal material. The presumption is that you have control of your own broadband. If the material is traced to your IP address then the very least that will happen is that your computers and data backups will be taken for forensic examination.

The BT WiFi access point on your router provides a separate SSID and a different address for public users. It is effectively a different network connection to yours, so you do not take responsibility for other users. It is only possible because of this arrangement.

Sallyingforth, perhaps better, since you made the assertion of illegality, that you cite your cases. The UK currently being a liberal democracy, it's hard to provide cites for laws permitting something.

I know the copyright holders would love to make a law meaning that anything that happened on a subscribers connection was their responsibility. Maybe they will. But not as things stand.

It's like lending a friend your mobile phone. If they make an obscene phone call with it, it's their neck, not yours.

This won't affect the billing though, as that's a civil, contractual matter. The billpayer would have to pay the bill, and try and claim it back from whoever used the connection.

In the court of law it has to be based on the balance of evidence - a judge would be looking to apply the measure of reasonable doubt. If BT have got no record of data being transferred through the public hotspot connect at the moment of download, then you'd be hard pressed to avoid a book being thrown in your direction. Plus anyone using BT wifi has to have an account. Or someone elses account details but that's a different story.