To be annoyed at everyone who uses the parent and toddler parking who shouldn't?

[sunshinemeg]

I am prepared to be told I am being a twat, but it's really bugging me.

So many people get angry (quite rightly so) at people who are not disabled using disabled parking spaces. However it seems so many more people use the parent and toddler spaces who really shouldn't.

The signs variously state
-for parents with children under 5
-for parents with children in pushchairs etc

Why do I see people park with their children who then jump out and walk off without a pushchair, it drives me mad, especially when I am struggling with a 6 month old and limited space to open her car door or get a pushchair remotely close enough!

needsacombo

Do remember that you are one car crash away from being disabled. One accident and your whole world could change or worse it could change for your child.

You would do well to remember that

So when I went to aldi and couldn't fit into the parking space and the only one left was a parent/child one should I have drove home or waited until another space became available?

Not likely. I had shopping to do, in and out in 15 minutes and I don't care if that makes me selfish really. By the time someone had come out the chances are that someone would have seen it and taken it before me anyway.

Have read your subsequent posts and feel you posted in anger, as we all can do on here.

However the situation is crazy. Parking spaces are not worth this level of anger from any angle.

Personally I would double the BB spaces and scrap the P&C ones.

You're dead right whoever said this is a red-rag issue! It's like everyone whoever parked anywhere they shouldn't or couldn't park somewhere because said everyone's parked where they shouldn't are just venting all their shit - given the right state everyone's clearly in, methinks tesco (and the rest) should just step in and sort it :- make all the spaces bigger or just keep a bucket of wet fish by the door and get slapping

I am sure that if you feel you need a P&B space you only need to go to a far corner and you will have plenty of room to open the doors.

I really wasn't going to post another reply because I am ashamed genuinely by how I came across and selfish I was.

But the body loves wine and chocolate it was one horrific car crash that has made me disabled for life. I struggle with that every day. Cathaters, surgery, I did survive and that's why I choose not to park in the disabled spaces or claim a be myself, because there are plenty of people in greater need. I know how lucky I am to be able to manage my disability. But as a parent sometimes I do need the spaces in the supermarkets to manage getting my child out. I might not have taught him a great lesson by having a go at that man but I teach him about all of the things I can do rather than the things I can't. And I'm not judging anybody else for having one and how they use it. Right or wrong I was judging one man on the pic space circumstances. I'm not justifying myself but you really don't have to tell me how I'm one accident away from being disabled when I had it, I don't know how I survived it and I've spent the last four years dealing with it. There really are some very entitled people on here. That's right.

need

It's very brave to come back on here and say you were mistaken. I have found MN to be a great learning experience

There are masses of things I now wouldn't do or say after reading the very informative threads on here

I haven't read the full thread, but ...

If I can't get a P and C park, yes, I will often just go home. I have a toddler and am 9 months pregnant with SPD, I really struggle without the extra space to get us both out of the car.

Where do you guys live that you can get these ample back-of-car-park spaces?? Even if I could hobble that far, it'd be so unlikely that I'd get a spare park next to me. That's including the retail parks on the outskirts of town.

We live in a society that tries to take care of some of the more vulnerable members of the community. Of course my physical needs are less than those with blue badges. But I really really appreciate p and c parks, just as I appreciated the man who helped me with a door at the doctors' surgery this morning and the elderly couple who spoke kindly to my son this afternoon. That's why it really pisses me off when I see people using p and c parks when they don't need them.

Also, if I park in a quiet part if the car park and walk, you can guarantee that when I get back some dickhead will have parked next to me leaving no room to open my door. I've had to leave DS in his car seat on the side of the road before so I can move the car to have enough room to open the door to get him in. My heart racing thinking anything could happen in those few minutes. So excuse me for wanting to make my life a bit easier and safer for my baby. (Again - that is not aimed at disabled people using p&c spaces obviously)

I'm just fed up of people being selfish arses who think their solo needs are more important than anyone else.
Like the porsche-driving doctor who always parked in a disabled spot because he was So Important. No - he was just a selfish arse. And people who don't need the extra width space, but can't be arsed to find a non-designated space - selfish arses.

I know P&T spaces are a courtesy and I agree they should be farther from the door - but the "courtesy" aspect is lost by the distinctly non-courteous selfish arses.

A bit unfair need. Thebody didn't know you'd had an accident already. Her point was a valid one given the information she had.

I just think that car parks should have fewer spaces and those spaces should be wider. My 70 year old DF is not classed as disabled but has arthritis and he is very tall. He needs to push the car door as far as it can go to unfold himself and I don't want to make him walk a long way. I suppose then though I might not be able to find any space if there are less of them :(

For a couple of years I had really bad problems with my shoulders, although my legs worked just fine. I used P&C spaces because it was massively uncomfortable to push a trolley and turn it. It was bad enough in the shop but hellishly sore outside. You might have snarled at me if you had seen me but I certainly believed my need was sufficient.

*Even if the older child has ASD and no danger awareness, for example?

No, of course not...but I suspect you know that.*

Hamish you'd be amazed (or maybe not) at the number of people who would include a child with ASD in the group who shouldn't park in a P&C space. It was a genuine question looking for clarification.

needacosmo maybe you should apply for a BB so you will have the option to use the disabled spaces (if you do qualify) if necessary.

Needs absolute and total sympathy for your injury.

Life can indeed bowl you a bloody awful deal.

Can I add that I know a young girl who needs the disabled space and has a BB following a crash.

At her school there is a designated spot for her mums car and can you believe it that 9 times out of 10 a teacher or a 6th former is parked there despite all being repeatedly warned.

I think everyone in this thread would find that absolutely disgustingly selfish.

Our local Tesco p&c signs specify that p&c spaces is for p&c up to age of 5 years.

But obviously disabled needs come first Sweets and Tesco would expect them to go in a P&C space if no disabled spaces- anyone would.

You would be surprised Delphinium. I have seen parents on other forums (an Irish one in particular springs to mind) giving out stink about disabled people parking in P&C spaces and saying 'how would they like it if we parked in their spaces'. Some people are incredibly thick and unable to use their own judgment because 'the sign says it's for parents so......'

I rage at people who use p&c parking spaces with no children because its just plain selfish! Why don't they park at the back and walk a bit further. One the one hand p&c spaces should be used by anyone that feels like it, and on the other according to another thread you must never ever rest your car door on another vehicle to get your baby/child out the car as you may cause unseeable damage. Fuck off!
Yes I have had to wait to use one of these spaces (or go home empty handed), yes I do pull people up on it, and no I've never lost the row. Parent & child spaces, the clues in the name!

You rage at them? Really?

Life's too short to "rage"over a P&C space.

I didn't realise this has moved onto disabled v's P&C, I've never come across someone with a BB using one, just thoughtless entitled cunts, but if I did I wouldn't object any more then if a parent and child had parked there. stating the bleeding obvious

TheEnd how do you manage in carparks that don't have P&C spaces eg the swimming pool, library, public parks etc?

Yup! RAGE