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AIBU?

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AIBU or is he?

26 replies

Flumpy2012 · 23/09/2014 14:24

I'm not sure where to start but here goes;

We have a 20mo DD and I have a 17yo DSS who until recently lived with us full time. We have been together 5 years if you don't count the year when he left when I was 16 weeks pregnant and cut all contact, refusing to engage in counselling etc. Despite this I did initiate us getting to a point where he had an active role in DD's life from birth, christening and open access.
We have been living together as a family for a year now and after such a lovely initial start I cannot see where things have gone so wrong.

DSS failed his AS levels in August. This sparked a huge change as we no longer receive maintenance and it also means he is around in the day time at least 3 days a week which I struggle with. He wakes DD from naps, makes quite a lot of general teenage mess and I don't feel I get any real down time if he is there all day, also I lot of what I say and do is fed back to his mum or nan - they both dislike me. He is working part time and applying for apprenticeships but most don't open until jan. We have a good relationship and he is lovely but I feel the balance is tricky so suggested we do 50:50 with his mum who's suggested more time with him anyway, their relationship is mostly fine. Then we could have family time on the weeks he is with us and make more of an effort and have a break when he's there, she only lives 10 mins away. DP was not happy, I was denying him a proper home, I don't love him or want him, my sole aim is to get rid of him so why doesn't he just go there FT etc. I don't want that and not does DSS. So we continued with him living with us but spending a bit more time there like 2 days a week but this became an issue because DSS wouldn't arrange and we would nag etc and I was still struggling as I started second year of open uni and DP works long hours. All laundry and cooking and most of the cleaning falls to me. So we said we'd try 50:50 which everyone except DP was happy with - showing resentment and treating me differently. I've also been trying to motivate DSS with driving, paid for lessons and changed to an instructor he liked etc to help his independence and open his opportunities. I've showed him different apprenticeships and organised amazing work experience for him.
None of this is enough, I am not appreciated or thanked, I do so much and it is all just expected. If I don't do it no one does and ultimately that affects my life in a negative way.
DP Thinks I don't support him in his job! He works hard but he works 1.5hr away and we have no nursery, no family support, I run a v small business with 2 others and am doing an open uni degree. He used to work 1 day from home which meant they day he could do tea and I could study so we could have family time on a Sunday rather than me studying all day. I plan to teach in order to fit in around family life.
Working from home stopped, so we agreed he'd keep an eye out for jobs closer to home and try flexi time. There is no structure from one week to the next of knowing when he is going to be home on which days so that I can plan study time or experiments etc and quite often he try's to wing it and fails this causing arguments. All I ask is the 2 flexi days, I don't care what hours he works the other days. I take an interest in his job and am proud of him. I have just had emergency surgery appendectomy and ruptured cysts. His first thoughts are about time off work, so whilst in recovery at hospital I was trying to call in favours and help to enable him to work as much as possible. I got 2.5 days help so needed him the other 2.5 days.
On our way bk I discover that DSS should've left for the week at his mums but has taken no stuff so will have to come bk tomorrow to collect, I made comment that this could've been better organised as we will have help there and need to drop my parents dog bk after their holiday and obviously I will be recovering. Cue being sworn at and told I'm a control freak etc etc. We got home and the nastiness continued so less than 24 hours after surgery I loaded DD and dog into car and drive to meet my parents at airport. I asked him to drive us explaining I needed my mum and needed to recoup and we needed to sort our relationship out - he refused and swore at me more. I know I was stupid to go but I needed support.

Please tell me AIBU to expect more? To be appreciated for what I do and to be supported when in need?

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Flumpy2012 · 23/09/2014 14:26

Just to add, we are not married, even though he knows I would like to be, he truly believes this is all my fault, he did eventually come to my parents but stormed out again leaving me to lift DD and split stitches.
My mum took time off to allow him to work this am on the agreement he helped this pm. He hasn't helped, he left her screaming in a travel cot and me to tidy up!

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KnackeredMuchly · 23/09/2014 14:30

The first 70% sounds like difficult step family juggling, I sympathised with your DH although you were not being unreasonable either.

The last 30% he is an absolute unredeeming arsehole.

Random1999 · 23/09/2014 14:43

He's not unreasonable he's a complete prick.

StarSwirl92 · 23/09/2014 15:26

LTB

BeggingYourPardon · 23/09/2014 15:36

He's being horribly cruel.

Does he have any redeeming features?? And I mean that In a nice way. Is he hands on with your child when he's there etc?

notaflamingclue · 23/09/2014 15:48

He really doesn't sound like someone I'd be moving heaven and earth to maintain a relationship. See Random1999's post above.

russiandwarf · 23/09/2014 17:16

What were the problems which resulted in him leaving when you were 16 weeks pregnant if you don't mind my asking? I'm just wondering if he's back to square one of any previous problems or whether these issues are new to the relationship?
YANBU btw. You should be a priority to him when you have just come out of hospital as should him helping you!

JetsAndSugar · 23/09/2014 17:20

Why bother?

HannerHet · 23/09/2014 17:24

Another vote for LTB here, sorry he sounds awful

Flumpy2012 · 23/09/2014 20:22

He left when I was pregnant because we were arguing, his nephew was living with us and I had ante natal depression. I had wanted a baby so much and he thought it would make me happy and I was just so depressed and riddled with anxiety because id previously lost a baby late in pregnancy. He felt unable to cope so left taking DSS.
His redeeming features are; he supports me in my business, he's very hands on with our DD. He's not one who's off watching football or doing hobbies. He's generally around if he's not at work. He will help around the house, clean kitchen and bathrooms etc
Another down side is that unfortunately he doesn't stand up to his EXW - she does no laundry for her son, it all comes back to me

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landrover · 23/09/2014 21:21

Well, the DSS can certainly be doing his own washing, and can't he help out with kids too if he is free?

landrover · 23/09/2014 21:22

And help out with the dog too?

missymayhemsmum · 23/09/2014 22:14

YANBU, Sounds like everyone is a bit tired, worn down and pissed off with each other, and you are supporting two men and a child and getting not much support back. And also as if you can't rely on your DP as if you are needy and vulnerable he can't cope and lets you down.

Is he able to let you down because you will just struggle on somehow being a martyred hero and trying to organise everyone? Maybe you should have just said 'I will be in bed for a week after the op, you and dss will need to sort things out' and then just retired to bed and trusted them to do so?

And asked your parents to collect the dog (and grandchild?)?

Can you renegotiate the deal with your DSS to treat him as an adult? eg he gets bed and board in return for some childcare so you can work and study, and does his fair share of laundry, cooking and housework?

Does your dp have much control over his work pattern or is he having to juggle home needs and work demands too?

Flumpy2012 · 24/09/2014 11:54

Thank you again for all replies.

DSS helping around the home is ok, but it is also about headspace and needing some downtime. He's a very young 17 and distracts me a lot from sewing and studying. He has set jobs like the dishwasher and the bins but it's a case of constant nagging which wears me out.
DP has pressure at work but I think some of it he puts on himself because he wants to look good which is fine. His boss doesn't have children so he doesn't understand. His exact words when he called to say he had to look after DD because I'd had surgery were - you've seriously let me down, the shit has hit the fan and I needed you here.

I'm happy to do laundry and cooking and hoovering and cleaning when I'm well but I'd like to be appreciated and I'd like a break from DSS with him going to his mums which doesn't require me organising it.
DP thought because surgery was keyhole he'd be able to go back to work once I was home. If I didn't organise help I would be treated badly because of the pressure he'd be under at home and work and in the end be guilt tripped and forced into coping alone too soon.

My parents help where they can but both work full time and live 120miles away from us. We're with them now and my mum is bending over backwards to help us. Cooking, washing, cleaning, playing with DD and tending her needs, helping me with things I can't do, being referee with DP and I and still working too!

DP thinks I knew he had a son when we met and I shouldn't need thanking for what I do for him. I should also allow him to work whatever hours the business requires and I should see him being home on time as a bonus.

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Momagain1 · 24/09/2014 12:16

He had a son that was a child when you met. dSS is now an adult.

Ii was one thing to take care of his laundry etc. 5 years ago. He is now an adult, and shouldn't require anyone's assistance managing laundry or deciding when to go off to his mum's for a few days.

Why doesn't he want to be at mum's? Because she won't do his laundry, etc and has stiffer penalties for his lack of self-care intruding on the rest of that family? He may be an adult, but perhaps a discussion between households so that he has the same expectations everywhere is in order?

My adult daughter lived with us for several years. I know what you mean about headspace and downtime. Another adult in the house, even if not causing any drama like dss, is just a constant interference, your privacy is never quite complete, no matter how long they live there. Doesnt matter if it is yoyr child, step child, parent or parent in law.

Flumpy2012 · 24/09/2014 14:03

He prefers being at our house because he can't talk to is more than his mum, she doesn't do his laundry, she has very high expectations of him too. She wouldn't put up with stuff but she is also very selfish and doesn't put him first. His dad is a soft touch and it's easier to get what he wants and get away with things at ours. However he does love being a part of a family, he loves his little sister and he likes doing fun things with us. I just don't want our relationship to go down hill because it becomes too much pressure for me. 50:50 would be perfect in my eyes. I don't mind doing laundry and cooking every other week, just not every week and having him around all the time. He is not drama or trouble but the balance of teenager and toddler is tricky.
DP thinks this is just me telling him I don't love his son and that he is shit.

I feel like having a trial separation again and perhaps he will come back appreciating me and my point of view more x

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dorasee · 24/09/2014 15:54

Sorry, I'd rather be a single mum any day. It all sounds dysfunctional.

sparechange · 24/09/2014 17:21

Your 'D'P and your DSS are both taking advantage of you.
Your DP is going one step further and being emotionally abusive and having you walking on egg shells to the point that you think normal behaviour such as supporting you in your business and looking after your baby occasionally is exceptional and something to be treasured.

You can't go through a cycle where you kick him out so that he realises he misses having you to wait hand and foot on him, so comes crawling back, then reverts to his old ways, repeat ad infinitum
Do you really want your DD to grow up seeing that?

Flumpy2012 · 24/09/2014 17:21

Have just discovered messages on his work phone which went off. Texts to the ex wife with kisses and 'happy to talk anytime you want'

It is over

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picnicbasketcase · 24/09/2014 17:24

I was about to say, for god's sake don't get married to someone who treats you like that, but I think that ship has sailed now anyway

Flumpy2012 · 24/09/2014 17:27

It's over. I just don't know where I start now x

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TheBatteriesHaveRunOut · 24/09/2014 17:29

Jesus. This man is keeping you miserable as a way of getting everything done his way. Guilt tripping you and treating you like crap. Added to which he may now be playing you off against the ex wife.

I'm not surprised it's over.

Sorry though Sad

sparechange · 24/09/2014 17:31

Very un-MN hugs

Do you need to make any financial preparations in the coming days? Make sure bank accounts, especially anything linked to your business, are separated properly and irrevocably from him?

Shedwood · 24/09/2014 18:24

I would sit down with your DP and say this;

"Do you realise if we split I would only have to do cooking, cleaning and racing round after me and DD? I would have time to study, time to work because you'd have her 50% of the time wouldn't you, just like we do with DSS?

I could still have DSS here to visit without having to clean up after him and I wouldn't have to deal with your grotty moods.

Now convince me why I should stay with you and what you're going to do to make my life with you more pleasant?"

If he can't or won't respond to that then you have your answer; he's with you because you make his life easier and he doesn't care how tough your life is because of that. If he genuinely cares he will recognise how unfair the current situation is and do something about it.

Shedwood · 24/09/2014 18:30

Sorry, I missed your post about the texts to his ex.

It may sound like bad news now but you'll be better off without him, and your life will be a whole lot less complicated when he's gone.

Take care OP.