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to think 3 sick days a year before disciplinary isn't good? how many sick days are you allowed? do you generally take?

107 replies

sarahighseas · 20/09/2014 09:13

Hi, this is about my employer who only pays 3 sick days a year and more that this and they reserve the right to have a disciplinary.

Does anyone else get this? How many sick days are yo allowed? He many do you take on average?

Thanks

OP posts:
SocialButterfly · 20/09/2014 09:16

My husband doesnt get paid for any sick days. I get 20 days paid sick.

I only take a sick saying I'm really poorly and wouldn't be any use at work!

Minikievs · 20/09/2014 09:17

None paid (it is 'discretionary' which equates to them never paying any)

5 days sick in any rolling 12 months = disciplinary

JustAShopGirl · 20/09/2014 09:18

At my employer you are not paid for the first 4 sick days - in any sick absence, then SSP.

You have a meeting about ANY unpaid absence (so including sick or parental emergency) and they use some formula or other to determine how much of a slap on the wrist you need to get.

Waswondering · 20/09/2014 09:18

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500smiles · 20/09/2014 09:21

None paid, not taken any, but I work from home, so can sit under a blanket on the sofa if need be.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 20/09/2014 09:21

Four instances of being sick in a rolling 12 months = referral to OH (not four days

Veritata · 20/09/2014 09:21

I once worked somewhere where they used the formula. It wasted a ridiculous amount of time - I remember someone being called in because he'd been hospitalised when a car mounted the pavement and hit him.

Shinyshoes2 · 20/09/2014 09:23

We get 3 seperate sickness absences in 6 months and we get seen

JustAShopGirl · 20/09/2014 09:25

the Bradford Factor - that is what the formula was - you get so many points depending on how OFTEN you are off and for how long over a rolling 12 months

How often squared times number of days in total. So the more often you are absent the higher it is weighted.

Sazorchard31 · 20/09/2014 09:25

I work for a large organisation (5000+ employees) and we have to have a return to work interview when the 3 sickness occurs in a rolling 12 month period. Disciplinary can start on no 4, you can lose your job by no 7. Disciplinary is at managers discretion.

I work in a professional environment and do not think it is unreasonable. It prevents people taking days off they don't really need. I'm rarely ill so it doesn't bother me but can imagine it does those with poorer health.

cherrybombxo · 20/09/2014 09:26

I get about three weeks paid sick. In the last 12 months I've had 4 days off (two instances of two days off at a time), I only take time off if I'm really ill.

insancerre · 20/09/2014 09:27

We don't get any paid sick leave
We have a return to work interview after every sick absence, even if just 1 day
Too many sick days results in a disciplinary

a1992 · 20/09/2014 09:31

I'm not sure about mine but considering I work in Childcare and we have parents sending there kids in with vomiting and diahrea, I'd be rather unimpressed if I got a disaplinary action for being off sick from catching it at my work place

DragonMamma · 20/09/2014 09:31

4 in 12 triggers disciplinary action with us. We get paid a maximum of 10 days sick a year, which is stingy.

In my previous employer we had anything from 4 weeks to 6 months, depending on length of service.

Serenitysutton · 20/09/2014 09:31

I don't know how much we get - it must be quite a bit though. We also use the Bradford formula. I have had 2 absences this year of 5+ days and been signed off (unusual for me, but just virus') and will have to see how that pans out.

I was worried because I am 11 weeks pregnant and they ask on the return to work form if you are. I was expecting to go back Monday but have been signed off until Thursday- I had annual leave anyway for the scan so at least I get to see whether it's all ok before telling them Smile

Ididntseeitsoitdidnthappen · 20/09/2014 09:32

I won't tell you our terms as you'll all hate me but they're incredibly generous Blush

But we get hauled royally over the coals if we are off sick in 3 or more separate instances. So you could be off with a 24hr bug, then a week long chest infection then break your leg and be off 6 weeks before you get a bollocking

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 20/09/2014 09:34

These stingy sick leave policies lead to nothing but people dragging themselves in with all sorts of bugs and spreading them round everyone. Grim.

x2boys · 20/09/2014 09:34

OK I work for the NHS so have a very good sickness policy six months full pay than sick months half pay but when you are talking about three days is this there separate occasions I ask this because in my trust if I was off on three separate occasions even if they are only one day in any one year than my my sickness would be monitored which could lead to disciplinary action ,however I could be off for six months ( certified) with no repercussions I would have To go to occupational health but I wouldn't be disciplined .

insancerre · 20/09/2014 09:36

a1992 I work in childcare too.

IamHelenaJustina · 20/09/2014 09:39

You can be off for roughly 10 days in 12 before triggering the system OR 3 absences in 12 weeks. Get 6 months paid though.....

Only1scoop · 20/09/2014 09:39

My company uses bradford points and they tried to use this to decide on redundancy criteria a few years ago. Regardless of what it was for....length if service etc.

We do however get 6 months full pay and then half pay up to 12 months so I can't complain in that respect.

The company have what they wanted a workforce terrified of going sick Hmm

SauvignonBlanche · 20/09/2014 09:40

Action after 3 occasioins sounds reasonable, 3 days seems harsh- says the person in her 3rd month of sick leave.

I work for the NHS and the amount of paid sick leave is linked to your length of service. I've been employed for over 20 years so will get 6 months on full pay (I hope I don't need it).

I usually have a very low sickness record once went 5 years without a sick day so can't say what is 'usual'.

DaisyFlowerChain · 20/09/2014 09:43

Three separate occasions sounds fair, I don't think anybody I work with has been off more than three times in a year. I've needed four days off in about fifteen years but some do take time off for every sniffle or sneeze.

Finola1step · 20/09/2014 09:43

In my job, there is provision for paid sick leave for 100 days full pay and then 100 days half pay. This is a safety net if you are diagnosed with a serious illness and need time off for intensive treatment etc. I know of people in the profession who have been diagnosed with cancer, taken time off for chemo and then come back on a reduced timetable without suffering financial hardship. And rightly so.

But, depending on the reason for the sickness, a referral to Occupational Health can be made after 10 days. The Sickness Review process can then also be triggered to assess whether you are likely to ever be well enough to return to work. This can result in a termination of contract after the 200 days. Or possibly a redundancy package offered.

Periods of frequent absence for minor ailments will trigger a review meeting after a total of 15 days in a 12 month period. Such absences are frowned upon and are usually an indicator that something isn't quite right.

We also have 5 days emergency childcare leave, 10 days compassionate leave and the right to request unpaid leave. 1 day for moving. These are mostly at head teachers discretion.

Yes, I am a teacher. The maternity benefits are pretty good too. But I'm married to a freelancer who gets zilch. I therefore appreciate just how bloody lucky my profession is.

Only1scoop · 20/09/2014 09:44

I think after 3 separate periods of sickness you get monitored where I work also ....regardless of the length of the three periods.