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Harassment from neighbours

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PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 13:51

Hey, posting here as no one in legal responded

Hey, some advice would be greatly appreciated.

I've had non stop harassment from my neighbours since May this year (I moved in to a 4 in a block top floor flat in April, council tenancy if that matters). My son has hypermobility which causes him a lot of pain when he walks, it's much less painful for him when he sort of runs if that makes sense? Due to poor sound proofing unfortunately this creates a lot of banging but the council can't do anything about this , they won't install extra sound proofing as they told me before I moved in that everywhere was fully sound proofed and my son's heavy steps wouldn't be a problem at all.

I did warn my new neighbours about this before I moved in, told them if things got too noisy please let me know and I'll try get things sorted. No problem and they were lovely and friendly up until May. One day there was a lot of banging coming from their house and the woman mentioned that they were having some building work done. I laughed and said thanks for letting me know, the banging and loud noises were setting off my panic attacks and flash backs as I suffer from PTSD. After that things got weird, they reported me to the ss three times for bogus reasons (children looking out the window a lot, a strange man coming in and out of my house and my children playing in the enclosed garden alone). Social services didn't take these reports seriously but I was told about them (I work with a lovely SW due to my mh problems).

When they saw that wasn't working they reported me to the council for apparently not emptying my bins. The council came out the same day and checked my bins (which had been emptied that morning) and took no further action. Then they started coming to my door acting aggressively and going on about the noise from my children and my cat. They'd come between 6.45am and 11.30pm, always when it was just me in the house with the kids by myself and not when I had friends/family visiting.

I started reporting this to the council as it was having a serious affect on my mental health. The anti social team came out to speak to me and said that they had been complaining about noise from my house - I explained the situation and told them of the steps I had taken to reduce the noise (extra underlay beneath the carpets, rugs, slippers for children, removing the batteries from any noisy toys, shutting cat in the kitchen at night, keeping the TV so low that you need subtitles to understand it).

The council told my neighbours to stop coming to my door so they then started banging on the roof any time they perceived there to be too much noise, including times that there was no noise apart from me flushing the toilet at 10 pm at night. This really set off my panic attacks and flash backs to the point where I couldn't even move about my home at nights after the kids went to bed. I rehomed my lovely cat who I'd had since he was tiny (he was abandoned at 4 weeks old, I had to bottle feed him and he went through a very risky op at 6 weeks old to repair damage to his intestines that he'd received before he was with me), I was extremely close to him but they kept banging and eventually it was too unfair for him to be shut in the kitchen all day. This broke my heart.

They then damaged my partners car (who doesn't live with me) but my partner didn't press charges as he felt that would make things worse for me. Again it was reported to the council though and the police came and told them to stop the banging.

After that they then called the police at to tell them (anonymously) that I had left my children in the house alone. The police came out, woke us all up at 6.30am to check if they were ok. I explained the situation and they took some details and I had to give them my partners address and phone number so they could confirm that he had been at my house until 11 pm that night and after that left, me still in the house. They explained they thought it was a malicious phone call and left.

Today I have just had the sspca at my door explaining they had a phone call to say they had a call from one of my neighbours expressing concerns that I had beat my cat to death (the one I had to rehome) as they could not hear him running about any longer and they had apparently heard me chucking him off walls etc. The sspca woman was lovely and also said that she had thought this was a malicious call but they had to check out every report. I gave her the number and name of the woman I had rehomed him with and they left.

I then reported this to the council (unfortunately in tears at the time) only to be told that there's nothing they can do about my neighbours.

I'm at the end of my tether, I'm already hurting about my cat and this was just salt in the wound. My and my partners relationship has been shakey since they damaged his car and my mh is getting worse and worse cause of this all.

Is there really nothing the council or police can do about this? Do I just have to put up with everything? How are they allowed to be so vile and nasty yet I get the blame for my children not being able to control the noise they make when they walk?

If it's any help we had a sound test done through the council to see if excess noise came from my house and we made the normal amount of noise apparently. I can also understand they would get fustrated with hearing the noise but it's not constant and only happens when my son is in a lot of pain and I'm doing everything I can to make sure that it's kept to a minimum.

He's also about to start physiotherapy to help him and my neighbours and I are supposed to go to mediation in October

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LadyLuck10 · 18/09/2014 13:56

I have no advice but just say how awful they are to you. It's must be so stressful for you and your kids. They sound absolutely horrible. Do you have any idea what started this? They were friendly up to a point, what changed?

PiperIsOrange · 18/09/2014 13:57

Get the council to rehome you. It is barmy to place you in a top floor flat with a child who needs to be able to keep his muscles active.

Vintagejazz · 18/09/2014 13:59

Didn't you have a thread about this before and got lots of replies?

IAmNotAMindReader · 18/09/2014 14:01

Keep a diary of the date and time of every incident you have with them and what the conclusion of each event was. Keep it factual and try not to introduce your feelings into it, this diary is to just establish a timeline of events.

In addition to this you can also write down separately how this is making you feel, the impact it is having on you and your family. How has your day to day life changed due to this etc.

Does your local council have an anti social neighbour team or policy. Talk to them and the CAB there are also dedicated websites out there who are populated with people going through similar things who may be able to give some nuggets of vital information to help you, even if its just support form someone who understands what this is like.

Do not suffer in silence and do not accept we can't do anything from those in authority as a response.

Take all of your evidence with you to the meeting and stressful though it will be at worst its something you can tick off the list to state you have been more than reasonable and its more proof that they are the problem so things can progress further.

Best wishes.

PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 14:02

I think it started when they found out about my mh problems but not sure. Vintage, had a thread about it a month or two ago but things have got worse since then and the council/police won't do anything

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PiperIsOrange · 18/09/2014 14:05

How about you contacting your local mp

PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 14:05

I can't be rehomed as they don't see me as a priority anymore, it's originally why I got this place. I do keep a diary (on the advice of everyone who commented on my previous post a while ago) and have had a few meetings with the anti social team as well, who are basically saying that they can sympathise but there's not much that can be done except mediation (which has been booked for october).

Will try talking to the cab, there's one in my town quite close so I'll pop in there

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IAmNotAMindReader · 18/09/2014 14:07

Escalate to your MP then. You'd be surprised just how much a local council can actually do once they have an MP breathing down their necks.

PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 14:07

Do they deal with stuff like this piper? ignorant of most political stuff

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PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 14:08

Ok, will definitely see her then, she's not fat far from the cab too (her office anyway)

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tiktok · 18/09/2014 14:11

The MP won't do anything if you have mediation set up, though....can you wait until the mediation fails to work/shows up the neighbours for the unreasonable twats they sound, and then try again with the council?

PiperIsOrange · 18/09/2014 14:13

I don't know, but I have seen this advice in the past.

I don't think mediation will work with assholes like your neighbours.

Polyethyl · 18/09/2014 14:15

Yes. This is precisely what MPs are for (amongst their many duties). We pay them to represent us, their constituents. It doesn't matter whether or not you voted for your MP. Write to him/her or go to a constituency surgery.

GirlWithTheLionHeart · 18/09/2014 14:18

My friend got rehomed because of aggressive neighbours - got extra welfare points so it is possible

IAmNotAMindReader · 18/09/2014 14:19

Yes they can do something.

They may or may not act until after the mediation but even so they can start asking some questions of the council as to why they aren't being more helpful and escalate as soon as mediation falls apart, rather than letting them shrug their shoulders and go well we tried there's nothing more we can do.

PicandMinx · 18/09/2014 14:20

Carry on living your life as normal. Everytime they bang, call 101 and report harassment. Get a log number. You are being bullied and your neighbours are enjoying tormenting you because you behaving like a victim. Fight back. You have a right to family life. If your neighbours don't like it - they can move out. Think about. The flat above them was vacant for a reason. I imagine they got rid of the previous tenants by making their lives miserable too.

TheFilthiestPersonAlive · 18/09/2014 14:29

This sounds absolutely awful, I really feel for you, OP.

I also think writing to your MP is a good step. It can't hurt, anyway. Outline everything that has been done so far and what the outcome of your calls to the council has been. Keep it succinct and factual.

Sparklypants · 18/09/2014 14:43

Please don't feel like you can't move around your own home and that your dc can't either.

If they continue with this then call 101 every time. This is harassment. They will have already been logged as making malicious reports so make sure you get everything logged.

Would it be worth talking to your gp and sw about it too with regards to your mh?

PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 15:40

Heya, thanks for the advice. Popped into the cab and made an appointment with them, will phone and make one with my MP too. I'll keep reporting it in the mean time.

My SW already knows about it, she's been getting on to the council too but there's not much else she can do, my mh team know what's going on as well and have already informed the anti social about how it affects me but they don't seem to have listened much

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JustforMe · 19/09/2014 07:03

If your well enough you could sue them for compensation for the harressment and maybe that would make them think twice. You will need to keep records though.

LittleBairn · 19/09/2014 08:54

This is clear harrassment, I would see a solicitor and also make a formal complaint to the police for harrassment. They will continue to behave like this until you do something about it.

LittleBairn · 19/09/2014 08:55

Forgot to add keep a diary of everything that happens and if you can record banging and any form of contact you have with them.

DrCarolineTodd · 19/09/2014 12:39

Call 101 - the police should take this very seriously.

What utter bastards.

By the way the need to escape threats or abuse ups your priority for housing. Speak to Shelter maybe?

PersonOfInterest · 19/09/2014 13:32

Agree with MP and pursuing the council 'anti social behaviour' team.

I also don't think the police are taking it very seriously. I would ask them to escalate the problem or I would make a complaint about the police. I think they may then become more inclined to pursue this on your behalf. I'm sure there is a clear system for making a complaint.

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