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AIBU?

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to think that this is an awful situation [sad] [shock]

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Weirdbeard · 17/09/2014 19:29

I’m sorry about the length of this.

I’ve been going out with my girlfriend for just over 4 months – she’s 41, I’m 44. Both of us have had abusive former relationships, and we’ve had other relationships since that didn’t work out, because we’d learned to not hang about when things are clearly going wrong. Abusive relationships teach you that you can’t fix people.

I fell properly, head-over-heels, utterly in love. That sort of thing you see in the movies, where you can't keep away from one another. Everything was great – she’s clever, pretty, amazing in bed, funny, exciting and sensitive. She said she felt the same way, that this was so different and she didn’t know she could feel like this. When we first met, she said she didn’t get jealous, then admitted she felt jealousy with me, and said she “didn’t like feelings”.

We’ve spent loads of time together. She has a pretty high-powered job and a daughter who’s nearly 16, so practicalities meant I spent more time at her house than she has at mine. We worked out a routine of taking turns buying the shopping, and I did all the cooking (because she doesn’t like doing it, and is often working in the evening, and I enjoy cooking). I get on well with her daughter and she’s introduced me to the rest of her family too. She doesn’t get on with most of her family, who are quite cold and distant.

About a month ago, while I was away, we had a sequence of misunderstandings that led to me thinking I was being dumped and while it was pretty serious, we both came back together and agreed some bad things had been said and how much we loved each other. And we were close again.

For the last couple of weeks, she’s been really over-worked and very unwell. She will never go easy on herself. I’ve been worried, as you would when you love someone. She’s had health scares before, and she also gets chest pains when she smokes an occasional cigarette. She'd also got light-headed recently and fallen over, so I was worried.

I made sure she was comfortable all weekend. I cooked food, did washing up, helped her with some work and gave her a lift to the health centre. I was feeling a little down, but was careful not to show it as she was clearly much worse. At one point I saw her crying in the sitting room. I came in and gave her a cuddle and asked what was wrong. She said “I don’t want to talk about it”. She had a bath on the Sunday evening, then we went to bed. During the day she seemed a little distant with me, but I put it down to her being ill – as she puts it, she gets a bit “pissy” when she’s unwell and wants to be alone. She apologised for it on the Saturday night, unnecessarily.

I woke up at about 3am on Monday morning because she was coughing hard. I asked her if she was OK and she clearly wasn’t, but she had a drink and settled down (I thought). I then woke about 15 minutes later as she got out of bed. She didn’t come back for about 10 minutes so I was concerned.

I went out into the living room and it was all dark. I hesitated, wondering if she had fallen or was asleep in there for some reason, then she shouted, “FOR GOD’S SAKE, I MIGHT AS WELL COME BACK TO BED. I WAS TRYING NOT TO WAKE YOU UP”. She’d been masturbating(!) on the couch. She came back to bed and continued. I asked if I could touch her (I was feeling pretty horny too) and she said yes. She came quickly then rolled over. Given that I was still, you know, getting on with it, I said jokingly, “Have you gone off me a bit”. To which she replied, “Yes, you’ve just smothered me this weekend. If you leave me alone I MIGHT like you again”.

I lay for a few minutes, shocked and upset, then got up and packed my things and sat for a second in the sitting room, trying to pull myself together. She came in and said, “Go if you’re going. Don’t just sit there”. So I left, as she’d asked. If she’d asked me for space before, I would have given it to her. I’m aware this can make me sound like some sort of awful stalker, but it really wasn’t like that. It was a normal situation, with one person who’s ill and the partner trying to make them comfy.

Since then – nothing. I’ve sent a few messages, letting her know how shocked I was and how I’m insecure – asking her to explain, saying I’ll give her space if that’s what she needs – but all I’ve had is a message yesterday saying I was hassling her and she’d speak to me properly soon, then one today saying “Leave me alone. Now you are harassing me”.

I’m broken-hearted. All sorts of things are going through my head – has she been diagnosed with cancer (she had a scare before)? Is she having an affair? Does she think I am? I understand people don’t want to talk, but to leave it like this doesn’t seem right to me. The least she could do is say “I need some space right now” or “I still love you but I need time” or even “I’m sorry, but it’s over”. But nothing. AIBU to say that I should at least get something, and that the silent treatment is horrible. I have honestly never felt worse. I can’t eat or sleep. Why would she suddenly change like that?

Please help. I adore her but I can’t for the life of me think of a reason to do the silent treatment. I thought she cared for me. I've not been able to eat or sleep properly since Sunday night and I'm going into a whirlpool of misery.

OP posts:
PiperRose · 17/09/2014 21:48

Does she have a diagnosis for her mental health?

janeoflanternhill · 17/09/2014 22:00

She's behaved really badly. Yes, you were entitled to an explanation from her about what's happened (and you may still get that if you wait). A pleasanter person would have ended this relationship in a respectful manner. She has treated you as if you are no longer of value and that's absolutely wrong. I can imagine that falling in love with someone and then losing them in such a way is going to take some time to get over. You need to give yourself that time. Accept that thing's will feel shit for a while but they will gradually get better. They will. There may even come a day when you can look back at this, quite frankly, appalling behavior and see this ending for what it is: a lucky escape.

On the subject of neediness - there's a fine line, isn't there, especially if you've fallen in love for the first time. Nothing wrong with wanting to care for someone. Ignore posters who suggest otherwise. However - and this is complete armchair-psychologist speculation - I do wonder if you would benefit from asking yourself why you haven't turned around and said, 'This isn't on. No one is worth being treated like shit for. I'm not interested in a relationship with a person who considers this acceptable.' You've mentioned an abusive relationship in the past and perhaps there were similar issues there too (not that it is ever anyone's fault if they are abused). I also wonder why you were fine with her shouting at you when you found her masturbating - is your self-esteem quite low? Some people would have said, 'That's not on,' not 'Shall I pleasure you?'. And when she just rolled over??? Words fail me. Also, by the time you had left her house that night, I think many people would have felt she had behaved so badly that they would no longer want to be with her (which could have been her rather nasty aim). That doesn't seem to have crossed your mind. Instead, you pleaded with her to be nice to you and to reassure you. You didn't assume it was over. That's downright dangerous. After only four months, you can't rely on this person to look out for your best interests unconditionally. You're also responsible for looking out for yourself, because people mess up. Again, you were putting a responsibility on her shoulders in asking her to reassure you. Yes, you deserved better treatment but a more robust self-esteem might have helped you to see that nobody else was going to look after you. It could be utterly wrong, but the state of shock you're in now could be the result of inappropriate dependency, given how quickly (too quickly) things have moved. I expect you're probably thinking that I don't understand the connection you had and how lovely she was and how serious the relationship was but I really think I do because I've been there, for all the wrong reasons.

Without being there, no one can know if you were a bit full-on over the weekend. But it does seem likely that you didn't read her cues that she'd like you to back off a bit. That could be a sign that you were feeling insecure and therefore excessively keen to please, as opposed to simply being yourself. That can be quite tiring to deal with and it's tempting to lash out in frustration if it goes on and on. But don't think of yourself as needy. Stupid word. You're a great guy, I have no doubt.

Don't take her back if she changes her mind. It would be nothing but push and pull. And don't look back on this woman as the one who got away. You're the one that got away, thank goodness.

CarbeDiem · 17/09/2014 23:03

I think you've got to take notice of what she's showing you and that is currently she doesn't feel the same way.
I agree she could have gone about it in a different way and just be upfront with you. Not everyone can read minds or signals and it's crazy to expect them to.
Sorry you're hurt but you have to let it go and stop contacting her.

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