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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be revolted by my MILs (lack of) table manners?

55 replies

HollyHobie · 15/09/2014 15:21

My MIL lives in another part of the country but is coming to stay for a couple of days next week and I can already feel myself getting wound up when I think about our meals together. No one else has ever had this effect on me.

Throughout every meal we must endure her incessant speaking with her mouth full of food. This occasionally results in morsels flying out towards an unsuspecting diner. Everything is chewed with her mouth open leaving us in no doubt of the current state of the contents. This is accompanied by wild gesticulation using her cutlery, usually knife, to ensure no one misses her constant interruptions of whoever is talking. Her bright hair is unfortunately not matched by her intellect and the overall effect could well have come from a Roald Dahl tale.

Unfortunately, I do not get on very well with my MIL, although she is blissfully unaware of this. She is a self-centred, domineering woman who shows no interest in her grandchildren. I have smiled sweetly throughout her visits over the years but am finding it harder to remain perfectly tolerant as the children are getting older. They have not yet asked why their granny is allowed to get away with such shocking table manners whilst they are not, but I worry that this day may not be far away.

AIBU?
Is there anything I can do to stay sane during her visit? Or suggestions for recipes which could minimise the unpleasantness? What can I say to the DC? If DH had shared her eating habits we would not have stayed a couple for very long!

I have NCed for this as I realise I'm probably being unfair, but it feels great to vent for a change!!

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Salmotrutta · 15/09/2014 18:44

I agree with Floisme.

And Gatehouse - your Mum sounds like she wasn't to be messed with! Grin

bedhaven · 15/09/2014 18:53

Just be glad you haven't got any beastly habits that annoy people...no me either :/ It may not be very pleasant to sit through but the whole point of manners is for people to feel comfortable. I think it would be the height of bad manners to correct your MIL behaviours and even worse to encourage your children to. It's just not very kind to say anything to her...thinking it and venting on here are wholly reasonable of course.

TSSDNCOP · 15/09/2014 18:58

I also agree with Floisme

glidingpig · 15/09/2014 18:58

Ughhh, so much sympathy for you OP. My FIL's manners are atrocious. Heavy breathing, slurping, practically sticks his face in the plate. And then sits there belching afterwards. Makes me nauseous. I'm not sure what can be done, really. :(

emotionsecho · 15/09/2014 19:03

Yes the point of manners is to make other people comfortable, ergo bad table manners make other people uncomfortable. Why do people with good manners have to tolerate bad manners that make them physically uncomfortable? It goes both ways surely.

I suggested earlier that her lack of manners is mentioned to her beforehand, by her son, not at the table in front of everyone and I don't think that is unreasonable in the slightest.

Nomama · 15/09/2014 19:09

And I would expect the hair colour and general daftness would be total non issues if the damn woman could just find it in her to be polite at meal times.

My BIL has the most amazingly disgusting table manners - think Sunday lunch, gathered on knife and fork and flung in an upward motion and then open mouth chasing it back down to the plate. Basically he eats like a starving Alsatian (one that has mastered flinging food off knives and forks Smile).

YANBU. Having to put up with loud, knife waving, double dipping, open mouthed rudeness is beyond any familial call of duty!

LineRunner · 15/09/2014 19:10

Can she not breathe properly when eating?

quietbatperson · 15/09/2014 20:10

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ScrambledeggLDCcakeBOAK · 15/09/2014 20:41

My suggestion is poke your own eyes out so you don't have to watch and make some sort of splash guard for you/ your plate Grin

BackInTheGame · 15/09/2014 20:54

Oh OP, I have so much sympathy for you! My old boss, who sat next to me at work, was the absolute WORST for this! He was rather large, ate FOUR courses for lunch every day (so I had to deal with the slurping of soup, followed by the squelching of the sandwiches and so on) and multiple snacks throughout the afternoon too - it was just unbearable! I ended up taking myself to the kitchen or the bathroom every time he started eating as I just couldn't stand it! Afraid I don't have any tips for you though as obviously I couldn't say anything as he was my boss! Was absolutely disgusting though.

Iactuallydothinkso · 15/09/2014 21:06

I can feel your pain OP, my own mother does this! I can't bear to eat with her and am on edge if I have to. It's really sad, as we don't share meals anymore. I'll go out of my way not to have to.

I will NEVER say anything. It would be very rude of me too. So I must avoid!

I think you're just going to have to put up with it. It would be awful if your children said anything as well. My children, I have no idea what they're thinking to be honest they probably don't notice as they've never said anything.

Gatehouse77 · 15/09/2014 21:20

Salmotrutta

Both my parents were incredibly strict about table manners. One of my brothers had a habit of stooping down towards the plate which triggered "Food to your mouth not mouth to your food!". And when that didn't work she made him sit with a snooker cue across his back and his arms wrapped round so he couldn't bend down!

I haven't been as strict with my lot but am tempted sometimes! No.1 bends down and uses his arm like a lever from the table. No.2 talks with her mouth full; cuts up all her food and then eats with just a fork. No.3 elbows on the table; using her finger to mop up sauces, gravy, etc.

That said, I know they will show the correct manners if we're out or they are at friends so try not to make too much fuss.

Didactylos · 15/09/2014 21:46

Epergne. A big antique silver gilt one, and sit opposite her. Screens from view and raises the tone

(ok, i just wanted to say epergne, because I have never had a chance to use the word in a sentance before Grin)

Oldraver · 15/09/2014 22:11

My MIL used to have the most appalling table manners, the worst chewing food mouth open like a cow. We used to fight over who had to sit opposite her.

I vote you put DH in the firing line Grin

revealall · 15/09/2014 22:30

Use it as an opportunity to film granny and grandchildren having a lovely supper together.

Make sure the camera is positioned so granny is shown in all her grim glory.

Play back later that day to show granny what a fun time was had...

JoffreyBaratheon · 15/09/2014 23:12

Just make her live on salad.

OP you have my sympathy as my late unlamented MIL was precisely the same.

What got me was the fact her revolting eating habits took more effort than just... being normal. I literally did see her eat peas from a knife, once. wtf? Why? Just... why? And the slurping and eating with mouth wide open and talking whilst eating... My stepmother was similar and like my MIL she also came from down South. I thought for years maybe all southerners were revolting like that. But then maybe it's a class thing or something.

If MIL even sensed something repulsed you, she'd do it more. So I had to keep a very straight face. I loathed mealtimes at her house. It always struck me as more effort to chomp and slurp than just to eat like a normal human being. So exhausting.

My kids know I wouldn't put up with it for a second from them. So hard to see how someone in their 60s couldn't figure out it's repellent.

Thebodyloveschocolateandwine · 15/09/2014 23:22

Gatehouse that sounds border line abusive to be honest.

Op really feel for you. I job share with a lady who shares the info of the morning while eating her lunch. Literally talks while eating Absolutely revolting and makes me heave.

Could your dh not tell her?

Floisme · 16/09/2014 06:54

And I would expect the hair colour and general daftness would be total non issues if the damn woman could just find it in her to be polite at meal times.

The op doesn't call her 'daft', she says she isn't very bright and has brassy looking hair, both of which have the square root of fuck all to do with how she eats (which, I agree, sounds awful). That wasn't venting; it was a carefully crafted sneer. It may not change mother in law's table manners but it changed my sympathies.

I'm not asking anyone to agree with me but the op wanted opinions and these are mine.

Redbat · 16/09/2014 08:04

You are not being at all unreasonable - good table manners make life more pleasant for everyone.

Your children will encounter "different" approaches at other peoples houses and when other guests visit your home - I had a talk with my husband and children about maintaining our own normal level of table manners, whatever anyone else is doing, and have revisited this subject more than once!

MrsFunnyFanny · 16/09/2014 11:14

I sympathise. My MIL chews everything with her mouth open, licks her lips like a cow, and actually burps at the table - as loud as she needs to which is usually thunderous. She usually follows it up with "better out than in". My children giggle and are fairly horrified to be fair, and on occasion they've been known to pull her up on her bad manners, but she completely rebuffs any comment and just says she can't help it.
Having said that, she also talks about her bowel habits openly, lets me know randomly that she's been 'a bit loose' etc. She once told me she was feeling randy and missed having sex (she's widowed)...she's in her mid sixties, and although I sympathise with her situation, it really was just too much information! She makes my stomach churn on a very regular basis.

Nomama · 16/09/2014 12:43

Crikey Flo! I was only expressing my take on it, not asking you to change yours or agree with me!

Also apologies if substituting 'daft' for a whole paragraph caused offence.

FlipItDigger · 16/09/2014 13:05

You have my sympathies OP. My MIL is also a disgusting eater. She bashes the plate with her knife and fork to cut/scrape food on the fork. To get one bit of food on the fork takes at least 4 bashes/scrapes... Why!? It is so bad we got plastic plates for her visits because the sound of the bashing was so loud.
Also talks and chews with her mouth open. The only plus point is she shovels it in so fast that I can pop in the kitchen under the pretense of getting something and she is usually finished by the time I get back.

Floisme · 16/09/2014 20:25

Nomama I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just trying to explain more clearly why I had a different view from yours but I didn't mean to sound arsey Blush

Nomama · 16/09/2014 20:31

Smile Floisme.

I did read it a bit like that. But I was a bit stressed at the time... Chalk it up to one of those forum thing Grin

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