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Already fallen out over new school run!

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Forgossake · 11/09/2014 20:32

This may be complicated so I apologise if it doesn't make sense.

So Ds 2 has just started secondary. The school is local but still a car journey away, I work 3 days a week and also have Ds 3 to get to primary school and dd to nursery. It's hectic and involves a lot of back and forth journeys, getting stuck in traffic and me nearly always arriving a few minutes late to work.

There is one other boy going to this school who lives in our area and Ds 2 is good friends with him. I approached this boys mum about a school run. I asked if she could do 3 days and I do 2. As I thought this felt slightly unfair to her I offered to also take her younger son to his school so she had no school run to do for 2 days.

Last week went fine. This week, the older boys have wanted to start after school clubs. There was football today and it was my turn to do the run so I spoke to the mum this morning and said obviously I would be picking the older boys up at 4.30 but when the timings are different it would be difficult to pick her younger son up at 3.15 from his school. This would mean 2 separate trips in the afternoon. She said she was working. She had not considered the fact that her younger Ds finished a lot earlier. So I said if it was difficult today I would help but she said no she would do it.

I can be a bit rubbish at saying no to things like this normally and was trying hard to be fair but assertive. I would not dream of asking her to go out of her way to collect my little ones so I felt quite strongly that going out of my way to collect her younger son at a much earlier time was unreasonable.

I worried all morning that I had let her down so texted her lunchtime to remind her that if she was struggling I would help out today.
Heard nothing until 4.20pm as I am loading the little ones up to go and collect the older boys. She sent me a text saying she had had to leave work early to get her younger son and ' it's great to have friends, isn't it?'.

I saw and replied to this text outside the secondary school, waiting for the older boys. I told her I thought she was being a bit unfair and she had assumed that I would always go out twice to collect all the boys when after school clubs occur. She clearly thinks I am being unfair. Pointless texting back and forth starts up. And I admit to feeling I had to fight my corner as her text messages were unbelievably patronising and passive aggressive.

After 20 mins of waiting for the boys, I went to check if they were still in school ( my Ds is known for chatting away with his mates in the changing rooms!) But they had left already. I drove around looking for another 15 mins then called this mum. She didn't answer my calls or text messages. Then I tried her home phone and her older Ds answered Shock. She had gone and picked them up herself and hadn't bothered to tell me. By this time I was on the verge of tears and furious. I drove home and only then did she text me saying she had picked them up, my Ds was now home and she would speak to me when I had calmed down. Angry

I have told her to leave the school run. It will be tricky but I will manage on my own anyway. Just seems a shame when we were both benefiting. But I don't like confrontation and it has left me feeling awful and doubting myself. Was I unreasonable? I hate to take the piss out of people and consciously tried not to do this with this mum. But apparently I can now go and 'find some other mug'

If you are still with me, you deserve a medal. And please don't flame me. It's a sign of my upset state of mind that I am even brave enough to post this - she knows I like MN and if she reads this, it will be pretty bloody obvious!

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Wibblypiglikesbananas · 11/09/2014 20:35

Well, she sounds pretty flighty to me! You're best off out of it I think. Have some Wine.

Forgossake · 11/09/2014 20:38

To be honest, she is. My darn gut warned me of this Grin. But I did like her and thought it was a win win for us. Why have I not yet learnt to listen to my darn gut.

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pictish · 11/09/2014 20:38

The whole arrangement was too convoluted and it was never going to hold up well.
I think you should both agree to draw a line under it, and go forward taking care of your own.

MrsCumbersnatch · 11/09/2014 20:38

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NynaevesSister · 11/09/2014 20:38

Why didn't you call her? Tone etc is hard to convey and text messages can often be read wrongly. I'd have wanted to talk it through right from the start.

I really don't understand why it is that you couldn't pick up the younger child as you have to do two runs anyway to pick up your younger ones.

bloodyteenagers · 11/09/2014 20:38

So you offered to do the school run? Today was your turn to collect all the children and you let her know this morning that actually no, you couldn't do the youngest run?

Forgossake · 11/09/2014 20:39

Darned I mean! Darned ipad.

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WooWooOwl · 11/09/2014 20:40

You seemed to start the unreasonableness, I think it was unfair of you to suggest an arrangement and then not stick to it because it was going to turn out to be a bit inconvenient for you just because of the days the secondary school has chosen to hold the clubs your dc are interested in.

But she was a million times more unreasonable to pick up your son without telling you. The worry and stress that would have caused you is far worse than the annoyance she will have felt about you backing out of your side of the original deal.

Moobieboobie · 11/09/2014 20:40

Can the older boys not make their own way home on the days they have after school clubs? If not, why? As this would make the whole complicated arrangement much easier? This does not excuse the other mother's attitude etc but the initial arrangement does seem bizarre if there is alternative for the older children.

pictish · 11/09/2014 20:43

Yes...you say the high school is local, but still requires a car journey. Is it really too far to walk?

ZenNudist · 11/09/2014 20:43

Oh dear. Fault on both sides I think. You can't cancel plans on the day. Texting about these things is useless. Talking would have helped. PA comments from her not very grown up. God knows what was going on with her picking up your ds.

Best off out of it. You both sound unreasonable.

MissPenelopeLumawoo · 11/09/2014 20:43

I am confused. The older boys were due to be picked up at 4.30. So who picked your younger child up, is he not in the same school as her youngest?

Eva50 · 11/09/2014 20:44

I think, if you had agreed to pick up the little one 2 days, then this is what you should have done. It's not her fault your timings changed. How far is the secondary school? Why can't your ds1 get there and back by himself.

Purplepoodle · 11/09/2014 20:45

Confused. If you picked her youngest up and she was at work where were you dropping her youngest off? Did she assume you were offering childcare for the youngest?

Forgossake · 11/09/2014 20:47

My little ones go to school 2 mins from my house so I did not need to dom2 runs in the afternoon. Agree a phone call would be better but she would not answer my call!

And I would not have dropped her in it today, I made that clear to her. I offered to collect her youngest Ds when we thought they all finished normal times.

I am going to move on, just needed some feedback and although normally wary of AIBU, took the plunge. Thank you for kind words, stupid rows like this leave me feeling a bit fragile. Especially with TOTM approaching.

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AliceLidl · 11/09/2014 20:47

What were you meant to do with her youngest son after you picked him up (even though you didn't pick him up in the end)?

You agreed to do a school run but not a baby sitting service, so if she was working, who was going to have her youngest until she got home when you dropped him off?

Scholes34 · 11/09/2014 20:53

Unreasonableness on both sides, but you appear to have played the unreasonable card first, purely for your own convenience, or have I misunderstood? Sometimes you have to put yourself out more because what you gain in return makes life so much easier.

FishWithABicycle · 11/09/2014 20:54

You were both unreasonable. Her more so but you started it. So you both owe each other an apology.

It was silly of you both to enter an arrangement that didn't take clubs into account
Given the arrangement you made it was unreasonable of you to decide it didn't suit you at short notice.
It was very unreasonable of her to collect the older boys without telling you.

I don't think either of you are mature enough to make a childcare plan like this work, you are both better off on your own.

littlejohnnydory · 11/09/2014 20:57

Couldn't the older ones catch a bus home?

lougle · 11/09/2014 20:58

I'm sorry but you were unreasonable. You can't offer to collect the younger boys and then back out on the day because you've realised it's a bad deal. You had an agreement.

She was unreasonable to collect your DS and her DS from Secondary school without telling you though, obviously.

WooWooOwl · 11/09/2014 21:03

But you did need to do two runs in the afternoon, because you had agreed to collect someone else's child. You chose to back out.

I think you are right to just move on from it, but as your older children are friends, I think you should apologise for your part in starting this fall out.

Forgossake · 11/09/2014 21:04

My youngest Ds is only at primary so he is picked up at 3.10, then normally I would get her younger Ds from a different juniors at about 3.20. Then onto get the older boys.

This is the arrangement we started with and we agreed it might need tweaking in the future. I know it sounds like chaos, but with mine are all in new schools, it is a bit manic. I thought that picking her youngest Ds up would help her out, she has 2 days without a school run. My life's still crazy but it helps me on the days I work.

I would not have left her in the lurch today, but also did not think it was fair of her just assume I would do this extra run every week. And yes, I think she expects me to have the boys until she is back as they are not allowed a key.

The secondary is the 2nd nearest to us. Really hoping Ds can cycle in the future, about a 20 min bike ride, but I wanted to take him for the first term as he was a bit nervous starting at a huge school.

Sorry I'm trying to answer questions but may miss some, I know it's confusing and I don't mean to drip feed.

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OldBagWantsNewBag · 11/09/2014 21:08

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NynaevesSister · 11/09/2014 21:11

Sure you thought you might be helping her out but did you not think through or talk through the gap between you picking up and her leaving work? You said that it all worked fine last week.

I would really avoid situations like this. It is far too complicated. And also you already sound a bit peeved that she's not grateful for two days off the school run - even though that was your idea. Plus she is doing three days of the week, but you can't do one day of a double run? Even with the extra run she is still doing more than you?

Or am I missing something?

eddielizzard · 11/09/2014 21:14

ugh what a mess. i do think you should have thought about clubs before offering. but her picking up the kids and not telling you was unconscionable.