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To be mightily pissed off that DD earns appro x half what her friend does for the same job?

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ChaosTrulyReigns · 09/09/2014 19:45

But be unable to see a way of dealing with it?

DD started a paper Round last October and deliverns 103 papers and earns 4p per paper.

She'd had her name down for a while as available to do it when a job became free.

Her friend started the month before after being recommended to do it by someone who was giving their round up.

We found out that he's earning 7p per paper for slightly more papers - a marginally bigger round.

We discovered this in January and I phoned the coordinator abd queried it, apparently there was a merging of companies in the summer previous and those coming into the rounds through a recommendation carried on with the higher payment, but those who approached the coordinator got the new lower rate, and that was that. So I left it.

8 months on and it still rankles, but I can't think of anyway to approach this without there being perhaps some comeback on my DD for me/her rocking the boat, or even worse (though lesd likely) a reduction in rate for our friend.

It's £4.12 a week, nothing really, but she enjoys it, and I feel that it teaches her when she goes and buys a frappymaccychino she knows how hard you have to work tto earn that money to buy fripperies, and therefore instilling some sort of work ethic. But the disparity is glaring.

Great friffing introduction to the Word of Work, huh?

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gertiegusset · 09/09/2014 20:03

It's shit, DS2 earns £5.03 an hour working in a pub, sometimes doesn't get home till 1.30 am after trying to get rid of everyone and then doing the clearing up etc.
Friends DD works there too and gets min wage of £6.31.
DS is 20 and that's min wage for him and the other young lad who works there.
A few weeks ago some money went missing and the manager wanted them all to chip in and cover it, cheeky cow, he would have had to work over an hour for nothing to cover his part.

Mrsmorton · 09/09/2014 20:04

I totally agree with all of your post. Good to realise the value of money but Shock at the difference.

LucilleBluth · 09/09/2014 20:07

Jesus. 4p a paper. I would just give her household chores and give her the money myself, 4p a paper is shocking, I don't see the point.

EduCated · 09/09/2014 20:07

That's bloody rubbish. Are there any other paper rounds she could get her name down for?

SquirrelWearingATrilby · 09/09/2014 20:10

Can't you give her £5 for set chores on a list?

Much better than 4p a paper!

SailorEverRose · 09/09/2014 20:14

Years ago I did the exact same job as a colleague, he had been there around 3 years more than me and so was on a different contract.

My monthly bonus would be a maximum of £300 and his would be £700.

Really annoying.

I'd maybe recommend that if it bothers your DD then she speak up for herself, she'll get more respect from her employer.

ChaosTrulyReigns · 10/09/2014 19:04

Thanks, I've considered the cash for chores agreement instead, she enjoys di no the round though, it goes oast loads of friends' houses, so is quote sociable, and I like the idea of a more formal employment. Think it just means more, iyswim?

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Bulbasaur · 10/09/2014 19:13

A formal job will teach her good work ethic. When I was a kid I'd work for relatives at the family business doing menial jobs the employees were too busy to pick up, and were frankly being paid too much to waste time on instead of their real jobs.

It was under the table and probably illegal to employ 10 year olds, but we had a great time and had extra spending money. We were never forced either, it was completely our choice. They did pay us a fair wage.

It taught us good work ethic and gave us some insight into how real employment works and what to expect.

I think it's good your DD is doing this. If she's happy, I'd leave it. If she's unhappy about how unfair it is, I'd help give her a confidence boost to talk to the manager herself. It'll teach her invaluable problem solving skills for the workforce, as asking for a raise and letting your boss know why you're valuable is a crucial skill if she wants to get ahead.

seasavage · 10/09/2014 19:14

That is really low. As a teen (in 1989 ish) I did one of those rounds for about the same. I then shifted to a morning round and earned about £25 a week for less paper (plus Christmas tips). I'd be really shocked at that rate.

BackforGood · 10/09/2014 19:26

Obv I don't know the details of the rounds, but when my dc did paper rounds, they got paid per number of leaflets they delivered, but the paper round side of their pay, was calculated on how long it took to do the round. So dd's round included half the houses where the doors virtually opened up onto the pavement, but ds's round tokk in houses where there was a walk up a driveway to each house. It makes a BIG difference when you are doing 100 houses. Just saying, it's not always 'per paper'.

nocheeseinhouse · 10/09/2014 19:26

So, does the friend have more experience to justify the wage difference? If not, I would be invoking the Equal Pay Act. www.equalityhumanrights.com/private-and-public-sector-guidance/employing-people/equal-pay/equal-pay-and-the-equality-act-2010 I don't think there is an age limit.

I actually think it is more important to challenge this, than the work ethic lessons on having a job, as you don't want her learning that it's okay to be paid less than a boy in her future jobs, do you? You don't want her to learn that you should put up with employers treating you unfairly.

PiperIsOrange · 10/09/2014 19:27

What time does she do the paper round.

I wouldn't feel comfortable come the winter when it cold wet and windy for under £5

CromerSutra · 10/09/2014 19:32

Crikey, I'm all for having jobs (I was working as soon as I could) but that just seems like the most ridiculously hard work for such little recompense! The difference in wage is awful I agree.

Sorry, you said she enjoys it so good for her.

Me624 · 10/09/2014 20:53

Back in about 1999 I used to have a paper round like this, it was once a week and i had about 100 papers too, but earned about £8 (sometimes more if there were lots of leaflets). So given inflation what your dd is on does sound really low!

Johnogroats · 10/09/2014 21:11

I remember delivering the Leeds weekly news in the mid 80s. 1 p per paper. My Sunday round was a lot better!

whois · 10/09/2014 22:26

Another one who thinks it's really low!

I had one round which fitted in a bag and I was paid £6.80 a week. Did another round a bit later. It that needed one of those trolly things and was uphill all the way home but I got £11.something for that one n

WaroftheRoses · 10/09/2014 22:50

I also had a similar round in the 80's, free paper plus leaflets, and got more than a fiver back then! Newsagent paper rounds paid a lot better though (had 2 of them as well!) plus got fab Christmas tips! Seems a very low rate for today.

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