to ask how you manage defiance?

[softlysoftly]

DD1 is a very clever verbal 5 year old (relevant), she's very well behaved in school and helpful at home BUT.

She's determined to do what she wants eg you can say "don't wake the baby" 15 times and she'll just continue while arguing her pov. We do counting out then removal/consequences then everything escalates to door kicking "I hate you" meltdown and more removal, more screaming..... I do "talk" after she calms down and we hug etc.

I need better ways to deal so your parenting tips please? !

When you find some good ones, please share!

Is it just 5 year olds?!

Make everything a game. Be completely daft.

So for example pretend DD is a sleeping cat and you both as mice have to quietly move around her. Over egg it totally and have a quiet laugh

I empathise hugely - I think it's especially worse this week getting into the Back To School routine after a long summer.

I've always found that what works once, will never work again.
And negotiation NEVER works when DS in tantrum mode. Or at all. I've decided to stop negotiating and offering conditions / carrots / sticks - it just creates more drama.

I don't really have any tips though