are we mean not to let a neighbour have one of our bins?

[crazylady321]

Bin day yesterday and some woman who lives on the corner of our street but classed as the next street is claiming to have had her bin stolen, she has apparently phoned for a new one and wanting to charge her 30 for a new one. So today in the pouring rain shes been wondering round looking in everyones gardens for her bin.

She knocked at my door and she was polite about it but I didnt like the way she just presumed she could have my 2nd bin. Ive always had 2 main bins since moving here and by the stickers on them she knows one of them isnt hers. She doesnt think its fair ive got 2 bins and basically wanted one of them, told her no because I use both bins there are 6 of us in my ouse and baby on way both are regually filled aswell as my recycle bins. I was explaining all this and trying to be polite but OH more or less told her to do one and shut door. Felt a bit tight and abit embarrased that OH was rude to her, but felt bit better that I saw another neighbour send her packing. Thought she was a bit cheeky though just wondering about in peoples gardens then knocking.

I understand her frustration though, cant believe council are now charging for new bins no matter what circumstances for not having one are

Someone ( hard to bloody say who without it sounding racist and bigoted so I won't ) tried to nick my wheelie . I heard them shove it in their van and so I ran into the road and refused to move until they gave it back . There was a tirade of abuse but after a stand off it was chucked back!
I went to bed petrified that they'd seek revenge and come back .

When my bin was stolen the council were going to send me a free replacement (Oxfordshire). I'm always extra pleasant on the phone when things like this happen though, because I think there's sometimes an element of discretion involved.

I would chain your bins together OP. She knows you've got two, she might feel justified in 'liberating' one...

Not unreasonable to tell her no.

One of our bins disappeared when we were away for a few days. Councile replaces th=m for free though,

We found our neighbour had seen ours (with our house number on it) knocked and due to no reply, she just took ours. She could not see why this was unreasonable. So we live at number 8, you live at number 15, and you cannot see why a bin labelled '8' might belong to house 8, rather than house '15'. Lucky we did not empty it on her drive! She was incandescent when we took it back.
Have now painted a HUGE 8 all over it!

Why do you need 2 bins? Can't you manage your waste properly?

Two bins for a house of 6 seems fine to me! How rude to suggest she doesn't know how to manage the waste produced by her family.

Our council doesn't charge for bins either. Many many years ago I've actually seen one of our bins disappear into the back of the bin lorry and they've just sent us another one. Here (Wyre Forest) if you are a family of 5+ you are entitled for 2 free rubbish bins, plus your recycling and garden waste bin (if you pay for it). We are a family of 4 and have 2 rubbish bins (they were here when we moved in), but it would take me a over a month to fill them both. If you recycle and compost etc, I don't know how some people can fill 2 rubbish bins in a fortnight. I've never managed to even when I had 2 kids in nappies

* I don't know how some people can fill 2 rubbish bins in a fortnight. I've never managed to even when I had 2 kids in nappies*

Maybe your a hoarder!

Yes you have two but as far as your neighbour knows you paid £30 for the additional one! So expecting you to hand it over for nothing was very cheeky

I often lend my green wheelie bin (garden rubbish) to any neighbour who's cutting down a large number of bushes or something. If they fill it and I have lots of garden rubbish to suddenly dispose of, I ask another neighbour for space in theirs.

I went out to fetch my black bin (general rubbish) once and it wasn't there even though the bins are all labelled with house numbers. I rang the Council and they replaced it at no charge (says how long ago this was). Only a day later a neighbour from another road brought my missing bin back apologising for taking the wrong one. So I now have two black wheelie bins, one green wheelie bin, one green bag (plastic and tins), two green crates (one for paper and cardboard and one for glass bottles jars) and one green caddy for food waste. Good job I have space to keep them.

Our council charges £71.00 for replacing a bin.

There is an arrangement whereby large households can apply for an additional rubbish bin, but there has to be a home visit/assessment by the council, and the charge still applies.

I really can't see how any household can manage to fill more than one rubbish bin a fortnight if they are recycling properly. But if the OP has been assessed as needing a second bin by her coincil, then she's entitled to it, and doesn't have to give it to a neighbour.

No need to be rude though.

Do you have to pay for collection of the second one? Round here there would be no way they would let someone have a second bin. They won't even take your first one if it's open a cm.

It's possible that her bin was caught in the mechanism of the collecting truck, although the crews are meant to keep a record of that for when they return to the depot. I've emailed the council refuse department before when my bin went missing, they checked the records and confirmed it had gone in the truck so sent me a new one for free. Additional or replacement bins where it's not their fault they do charge for.

Yanbu. Our council give recycling bins for free but general waste bins are also £30 which is ridiculous IMO. How many people purposely lose their bin? Or purposely destroy it? I'd guess almost ZERO. If a person needs a bin replacement it's because it's got nicked, let's face it. Or it's 'mysteriously vanished'/taken itself off to wheely bin land. It's not the persons fault whatever happened to it so why should they be charged?

Yanbu at all not to give her yours though but I can understand her desperation if that's £30 she absolutely does not have. She's probably going to steal someone else's now isn't she. Wheely bin revenge.

OP You are not an insurance company.

If it is just for one week I would have let her put one black bag in my bin and hoped other neighbours would do the same to tide her over.

Ours charges £30 too if the bin is "lost" - HOW!!!! or stolen.

Ours vanished one day and the council tried to tell us it had been stolen - a bin that had been used for disposable nappies for 2 kids for 2 years - at the end of a cul-de-sac, which is off a U shaped road, off another u shaped road..... REALLY !?!?! - someone went past all the lovely clean retired neighbours' bins and actively CHOSE ours to nick....

It went into the lorry, but they didn't notice, depot had reported that one was in there when it got there - but the council kept trying to say that since it was at the depot it could have been anyone's-

we got a new one for free in the end, after much very satisfying arguing. I do like a good argument

Here the black (rubbish) bins are small but you can have a larger (standard) size one if you have a child in nappies. Once you've got it they don't take it back from you and it's free to have. We recycle everything but our black bin is always full up when it's the fortnightly collection - I'm not quite sure what goes in it to be honest as so much is recycled.

You could suggest she tried Ebay for a used one? I definitely wouldn't give her your bin. It's yours. If she'd been nice and asked to borrow it as a temporary measure I'd have probably let her but since she got nasty I wouldn't. On the other hand I thinking checking the bins in neighbours gardens is legit under the circumstances. If she'd knocked first the person who took it probably wouldn't have let her in.

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Our council doesn't provide bins for general waste at all in an effort to encourage recycling. No matter how much you recycle, you still need a bin! We recycle tin, plastic, paper/card and food waste, and our general waste wheelie is always full at the end of the fortnight! They expect you to just put black bin bags out for collection, but due to cats/urban foxes, this is a really bad idea. We had to buy our wheelie bin from a private co. for £46, have put massive house number letters on it, but if someone tried to nick it I would be fuming!
I can appreciate this woman's predicament, but she has a right brass neck to try and appropriate yours - entitled much?!

We were told if we provided a a crime report reference number then we could get a replacement bin for free, otherwise it was £30. I can't remember if we did this or just paid!

As far as im concerned I do manage my waste correctly. I have 2 recycle bins which do get full regually, I fill both bins to the max by every collection day. They only fit 3 big bin bags plus a few waste bin carriers!! I also have 2 dogs and their poop a scoop bags get put in, Come January once baby is here I will also be filling with endless nappies so will be sticking to putting nappies in 1 bin if possible.

Im not sure who would want my smelly bins anyway they are the older ones and covered in graffiti from the last poeople in my house, but yes think I will chain them up. Im not the only family on the street who has 2 bins I think as they are biggish houses quite a lot of big families are living in properties and need 2

It's fair enough to need and use two bins if you have a large family with children in nappies. A lot of people think they manage their waste properly but don't. Therein lies the problem, of course; family of 4 applies for extra capacity, gets turned down and steals one from somewhere.

It's illegal for a council to charge for the collection of household refuse from a domestic property btw. The only thing that can be charged for is garden waste and bulky items. Many charge for replacement bins though.

Those of you who say you fill your bin every week/fortnight, be grateful you don't live in 'zero waste Scotland' or you might have a bit of a shock.

I'm actually glad living in a flat we have massive communal bins. Moving one of them takes 2-3 people. Can't imagine anyone stealing them although there are two less than before.

Charitybelle we're the same - general waste bins not provided at all by the council. Pain in the arse.

You don't think the bin thief is the man who wanted to take a wheelie bin on the bus from the thread where OP's dog was not allowed on the bus do you?

Haha ghoul, that was my story about the man wanting to take his bin on the bus. he went to the local papers and did the sad face and everything!