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Those ridiculous amber necklaces...

281 replies

moxon · 06/09/2014 16:45

...that all babies seem to be wearing these days. No, people, it does not help with teething pain/inflammation/positioning. It's just pieces of amber. You would need to heat it to extract the oil which you can use to make your baby smell like the inside of a potpourri bowl after using as a massage liquid base if you want, but it still won't do jack to give your baby a carefree pearly whites experience. I am getting so tired of everyone buying into this new-age old-age rubbish, and seeing otherwise perfectly reasonable parents stringing up their babies necks in gimicky stuff.

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Nomama · 06/09/2014 17:08

I thought it was coral that was used as a teething thing. 16th Century science being about on par with amber 'crystals'.

But I loved one review - Bouncy Baby Boutique, which sells Baltic Amber teething necklaces it’s the succinic acid, a naturally occurring component in amber that makes it so effective. “Succinic acid is a natural pain reliever, anti-inflammatory, and a central nervous system calmer. It is so effective on babies and small children because it simultaneously eases their pain while also having a strong soothing effect on their nervous system – all with zero side effects!”

Yeah. I am a Suck Cynic Smile

moxon · 06/09/2014 17:09

isabeller - they are meant just to be worn, thus imparting some mysterious antiinflammatory and straightening powers onto the erupting teeth, and not really for chewing on. Also, yesyesyes: choking hazard wondering!

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toothlessoldhag · 06/09/2014 17:09

Crystals have been used for healing for many more years than you have walked this planet. so was burning herbs under a full moon - doesn't mean they're any use Hmm have a look at this blog for a systematic review of the evidence scienceornot.net/2012/10/30/amber-necklaces-and-teething-babies/

Hakluyt · 06/09/2014 17:09

"But the most commonly cited mechanism of action (and the most plausible, with that term being used very liberally here) is that the amber beads, when warmed by body heat, release tiny amounts of succinic acid which passes trans-dermally into the blood stream where it acts as an analgesic. I refer to this mechanism as plausible for the following reasons only:

Baltic (Class Ia) amber does indeed contain succinic acid
Some molecules, including some drugs used in science-based medicine, are absorbed through the skin to produce physiologic effects
Succinic acid (also known as 1,4-butanedioic acid) is found naturally in the body as an intermediate in the all-important Krebs cycle; altering the levels in the body could therefore have potential physiologic effects
The plausibility for this mechanism ends there, however, and then quickly begins to break down. First, though Baltic amber does contain succinic acid, there is no evidence that it has analgesic effects at any dose, let alone the miniscule amounts that might conceivably enter the body through this route (more on that in a moment). As mentioned above, succinic acid is an important intermediate in a very important biochemical pathway. It resembles many other similar molecules found in our body and is considered safe. Toxicity studies have shown that even large doses produce no adverse effects. The FDA even allows it to be used as a food additive and to be sold as a dietary supplement. Ironically, it is classified as a skin irritant.

The next step in the plausibility break down is the notion that succinic acid in the amber beads gets released at body temperature, and is then absorbed through the skin. There is no evidence that succinic acid is released from amber on contact, or that warming it to body temperature would facilitate this. If it was released, there is similarly no evidence for transdermal absorption. Many factors contribute to the ability of a molecule to enter the body through the skin. In addition to the physical and chemical properties of the molecule, clearly the dose is an important factor. Generally speaking, the larger the concentration the easier it is for a molecule to get through the skin. The amount of surface contact is important as well, and this would have to be considered pretty small in the case of a string of beads worn around the neck. As for the amount of succinic acid likely to be found in one of these necklaces, let’s assume the following:

Baltic amber contains 50-400 ppm of succinic acid
1 mg/kg = 1 ppm
Necklace weighs 1 oz = 0.028 kg
Necklace contains 1.4-11.2 mg succinic acid
Even if you were to assume that succinic acid is released from the necklace onto the skin, the amount released would have to be an extraordinarily miniscule fraction of the total 1.4-11.2 mg contained in the entire necklace. For a therapeutic effect at this sort of dose one would need to invoke homeopathy, but that is an entirely different subject altogether. Interestingly, corrosive formic and acetic acids were found to off-gas as volatile degradation products from Baltic amber. Acetic acid is vinegar, and formic acid is found in fire ant venom and can cause blindness."

A clear refutation of the "science". I found the last sentence particularly interesting.

Florin · 06/09/2014 17:09

Complete rubbish and isn't anyone worried about the strangulation and choking risk? A friend used one on their baby I used to worry about it all the time when they stayed over, I just can't see how they are safe. I would much prefer when my ds was really bad to just give him some neurofen rather than take the risk of strangulation or choking.

moxon · 06/09/2014 17:10

Grin nomama

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toothlessoldhag · 06/09/2014 17:11

The acid need high temperatures to be released. "... even in the unlikely event that succinic acid is released from the amber, there is no evidence that it is absorbed or has any effect. And even if it does, how sensible is it to allow a completely unregulated dose of a chemical to flow into a child’s body over a long period?"

BramwellBrown · 06/09/2014 17:11

When DD was teething she was horrible and I was so desperate for 5 minutes of her not crying that I would have tried anything, no matter how ridiculous or unlikely to work, I spent half my time being a dingle dangle scarecrow because it was the only thing that distracted her.

TunipTheUnconquerable · 06/09/2014 17:12

I think we should go back to giving our babies wolf's tooth teething rattles. It worked for the Tudors, it might work for us Smile

Isabeller · 06/09/2014 17:12

Not for chewing?! Confused

Pippidoeswhatshewants · 06/09/2014 17:13

Haha, OP, I am with you on this one. Having a baby seems to go hand in hand with losing any sense of reason. Arnica remedy, anyone?

YouTheCat · 06/09/2014 17:15

interesting read

Hpparent · 06/09/2014 17:15

I had those as a baby and was born in the early 60s! I had no idea they were still in use. FWIW I had loads of fillings as a child and had braces for years because of crooked teeth/overbite. I am also very sensitive to pain in my mouth - doubt it is connected to the beads though.

ShadowStar · 06/09/2014 17:16

YANBU. They're a load of bollocks.

Isabeller - as I understand it, the baby isn't actually meant to put the amber in their mouth. It somehow allegedly magically stops teething pain just by touching the baby's skin. So whether biting / chewing helps with teething is irrelevant here.

ShadowStar · 06/09/2014 17:19

X-posted, sorry

ShadowStar · 06/09/2014 17:21

OrangeTart - we had a Sophie the Giraffe for DS1. We had to get rid of it because he became terrified of the squeaky noise it made and started screaming hysterically at the mere sight of Sophie.

hollie84 · 06/09/2014 17:22

Isabeller - it's not a teether, it's magic amber for pain relief!

upyourninja · 06/09/2014 17:23

My DD had one. It was one of the many crazed decisions I made in the depths of sleep deprivation and it made not the slightest bit of difference, to sleep or teething. It looked cute though.

moxon · 06/09/2014 17:25

Lol shadow. Must've been tough taking him to the playground or baby groups! Wink

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moxon · 06/09/2014 17:26

shadow - I mean, to be confronted by Sophie's everywhere!

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Isabeller · 06/09/2014 17:26

great link YouTheCat I especially liked the idea of aligning my ethereal and physical energies but as I have no physical energy I could be in trouble Grin

I did think it was odd seeing something around this child's neck but then thought there must be some special design reason why it was safe...

thewavesofthesea · 06/09/2014 17:28

They might work and I can under and that some people may try anything.....but the idea of placing a string of beads around a child's neck that could catch on something and strangle them or that, if it came off, would choke them, really doesn't sit right with me.

moxon · 06/09/2014 17:28

I salute your scarecrow bramwell! :)

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Strokethefurrywall · 06/09/2014 17:29

I had one for DS1 and have one for 6 month old DS2 - he's worn it since he was 3 months.

Not really bothered about the teething properties but they look damned cute. Choking hazard doesn't worry me as they are designed to snap if they get caught on anything and the individual beads are hand tied to the thread so won't go spilling all over the place. And if they are accidentally ingested, Amber doesn't pose any risk as it's a natural resin.

Can't really find it in me to get worked up about it - many parents here have them. I suppose it's the same as those headbands for baby girls. You either love them or you hate them!

Albadross · 06/09/2014 17:30

It's the placebo effect at it's best - only for the parents, not the child.

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