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AIBU to want a full refund? (Long, sorry)

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TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/09/2014 20:42

I'm posting this on behalf of my sister - she lurks but hasn't got an MN account. If anyone asks anything I can't answer she'll text me her response. it would not be simpler at all for her to just sign up to MN already She wrote the AIBU, hence why it's in the first person.

So, here goes:

I bought posh paint from Abigail Ahern website here. I had trouble right from the start with their online order form freezing after I entered my card details. When I called to explain the problem with my order they were very dismissive and just told me the website was working fine – well, it wasn’t, but I paid over the phone and waited and waited for the paint. It arrived a week later than anticipated and I had to get in touch with Fedex myself to find out where my order was as AA were uninterested. I’d ordered one tin of emulsion and one tin of eggshell in Mott for one wall in my living room, we’d already painted the rest of the room and have over the last year painted the entire flat using Dulux, Crown and Farrow & Ball. We have never had the problems we had with this paint.

We put on three coats and it was patchy. We didn’t have much paint left, so we rang to complain (it says on the tin it will cover in 1–2 coats) and we were talked into taking a replacement tin instead of a refund and reassured it wouldn’t take two weeks to arrive. It did arrive quickly. The fourth coat was okay. When you saw it in daylight it still wasn’t perfect but we were so fed up of painting that wall that we decided we could live with it.

We then opened the eggshell to start painting the woodwork on that wall, and it was like water, runny and drippy. We did two coats on a small bit of the woodwork, and it was awful. Over the next 5 or 6 weeks, we sent photos, AA sent a courier to pick up the paint so they could test it – who then phoned me to complain that nobody was in – of course nobody was in, they didn’t bother to contact me to tell me someone would pick it up and we were at work! They eventually picked up the paint and we heard nothing for weeks despite emailing asking what was going on. They didn’t reply to emails but on at least three occasions swore they had. Oh yeah, and they added both our email addresses and my work email to their mailing list and sent us weekly sales emails...

Eventually, I phoned to be told that they’d ‘tested’ it and found nothing wrong with it so they weren’t refunding us. They said we should be happy we’d already had a replacement – for one tin out of two, when both were unusable, and since two tins had been picked up for testing we didn’t have either the paint or the money! DP called them again to point this out and they eventually agreed to refund us for the eggshell, but they refused to refund us for the emulsion as we’d had a replacement tin. I bought replacement paint from another supplier to repaint the whole wall, both eggshell and emulsion to make it match. (I have tried colour-matching with Dulux and it’s never been exactly the same colour.) The new paint had no problem at all covering the same woodwork. I originally spent £78 on the two tins, and we’re supposed to be getting £40 back. I have paid on top of that for the new paint. I have now waited 7 working days for a refund we were told would take 2–3 days (after I phoned to chase it when 4 days had passed, they claimed to have said 2–5). Today I tweeted them and was told they needed my card details again - when were they going to contact me about that? It will now take another 3 working days to give us the partial refund. I originally ordered the paint in late June, it’s now September!

Am I being unreasonable to want a full refund, not just for the one tin? And to generally think their customer service has been abysmal?

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whois · 05/09/2014 20:46

Um, quite long for not a very exciting AIBU.

You're not being U, but you're defo giving this too much head space.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/09/2014 20:47
Grin
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FishWithABicycle · 05/09/2014 20:52

yep. life is too short to worry about paint. sign up for mumsnet - all paint will look identical when you mostly are just staring at a screen.

DoJo · 05/09/2014 20:53

Hmmm - on the face of it I would think that it was your decision to repaint the whole wall rather than just find a new paint for the woodwork, so I can see why they aren't keen to refund for paint that they had already replaced and that you were happy with.

However, given the problems you have had with their admin, I would expect them to offer a full refund as a goodwill gesture. The only barrier I can see to that is if you had already said something along the lines of 'I'm so disappointed - I will never use your products again' at which point they probably don't have much to lose and have decided to live without your future custom!

gamerchick · 05/09/2014 20:56

Well did your sister stir the paint before using it?

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/09/2014 21:02

Yup - she did everything she was supposed to, including prepping the wall, whatever that means. Hence the outrage.

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GermanHouseCat · 05/09/2014 21:05

I read AA'd blog occasionally and I watched that TV show she was on. On the show inparticular I found her incredibly patronising and insensitive to people who had become hoarders, often due to traumatic life circumstances.

She also sells a load of stuff on her website which is clearly rubbish she has had in her house forever, yet plonks a ridiculous price tag on it. The stuff for Debenhams is also vom-tastic (velvet and chintz dog lamp, no thanks).

I'm not surprised that the paint is all smoke and mirrors, but I do like the look of some of the colours. I'll stick to F&B and Fired Earth thanks!

Anyway, yanbu but good luck chasing that full refund...

loudarts · 05/09/2014 21:07

If your sister paid by credit card she may be able to claim the money back through them

DejaVuAllOverAgain · 05/09/2014 21:11

Iirc you need to spend over £100 to get a refund on a cc.

YANBU I think you should get the refund as a goodwill gesture.

Bright side at least I'll know not to waste my money on them if that's how bad their customer service is.

DejaVuAllOverAgain · 05/09/2014 21:11

Sorry, I mean your sister should get the refund and the last bit isn't really helpful is it.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/09/2014 21:17

Deja, she's so annoyed she wants to blacken the AA name and warn as many people off as possible, which is why she wanted me to post it here. So your reaction is perfect!

Both DM and DSis are v into the whole Abigail Ahern thing (or were before this paint debacle). I gave up at the point when Mum was advising me to have my sofa pulled into the middle of the room because that's how AA does it. Maybe in a vast drawing room that would work, but not in your average living room. although I do have 3 rooms painted with F&B so am not a total loss

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TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/09/2014 21:18

She hasn't got a credit card, so unless it was her DP's cc then it will have been her Visa Debit card.

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drollandoriginalusername · 29/03/2015 18:16

At the risk of resurrecting a zombie, I'm glad it's not just me. I've just painted a sitting room with Abigail Ahern paint and it's terrible. All the preparation was done properly, but both the matt and the eggshell have as much coverage as a pan of gravy. Two coats? Even four didn't give a totally uniform finish. And at £55 a tin, I'd expect it to be a bloody sign better.
So, no, not unreasonable at all - I feel your sister's pain!

26Point2Miles · 29/03/2015 23:45

I work in 'paint'

It's almost never a fault with the paint. However, as the law changes soon, all paint has been reformatted to comply with EU regulations and its only legal to sell water based. This affects quality I'm afraid

As for the emulsion.... Depends very much what you are painting over/ how it's prepped and how it's applied

The whole concept of 'slap a coat of paint on it will be fine' isn't accurate

Box5883284322679964228 · 29/03/2015 23:54

I've used a lot of paint over the years. They do vary - little greene has great coverage but F&B can be quite watery by comparison.

MidniteScribbler · 29/03/2015 23:55

Wow, this thread was boring the first time, and it's even more boring now that it's resurrected.

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