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AIBU?

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to think you don't leave a baby unattended in a grown-up bed

52 replies

Christelle2207 · 03/09/2014 12:22

MiL looks after ds once a week, usually in our house but for the next few weeks will be in her house for various practical reasons. He has just turned 1 and moves around a lot in his sleep. I asked her where she intended to put him down to nap (and would she like the travel cot) and she dismissed the idea saying that she often had one of her three sons to nap/sleep in a (grown-up) bed, and one of them fell out once but was ok (!). I raised my eyebrows at this point and said I would not be happy with him being left unattended in case he fell out while asleep and she said that she'd either sit with him or put him in the pram instead. All fine.
Later on speaking to my husband (her eldest of 3 sons) he said that to his knowledge none of them had ever had a cot. And that they all slept in an adult bed (no bed guards or anything) from the time they grew out of carry cot/pram! This was late 70s/early 80s if it makes a difference. I was absolutely horrified that she thought this was ok. I know they struggled financially when the kids were small but so did my parents and they got a hand-me-down cot from somewhere for free. I am also now worried that if she thinks this is ok, what else does she think is ok?
My husband thinks I'm overreacting and that plenty of children don't sleep in cots (true but if you didn't have a cot you would put them somewhere safe on the floor wouldn't you?), sleeping in a bed doesn't mean that they're not safe. I disagree entirely AIBU? Were attitudes really that different 30 years ago? Am I being PFB?

BTW I am relatively relaxed about co-sleeping so this is not a debate about that. I have often slept with my son in the bed, before he got too wriggly. But never left him unattended once he started rolling around and before he moved I would still check on him every 5 minutes. I think when baby is in bed with you you're always slightly aware of what he's doing in your sleep, unless you're completely exhausted in which case I don't think that's safe either.

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Bambambini · 03/09/2014 12:53

I'm sure I used to leave mine sleeping in the middle of our kingsize bed.

TracyBarlow · 03/09/2014 12:59

I have never used a cot because neither of mine would sleep in it. Both have been in my bed from newborn and have napped either on me or on the bed. I just put pillows down on the floor in case they fall out. They never have.

McFox · 03/09/2014 13:01

I think that you're being a bit pfb. As long as she puts some pillows or something around him to stop him falling out, then I don't see the problem.

MotherOfInsomniacToddlers · 03/09/2014 13:02

Ummmmmm well when my dd was 13 months she climbed out of her cot and banged her head badly, resulting in a trip to a&e. So maybe she would have been safer in a bed with less far to fall. For this reason my ds who was very tall for his age was moved to a bed at 14 months (I thought he was capable of climbing out and didn't want to risk it) he co slept til 10 months so the cot was barely used. I've kept the cot for dc3 which I'm now pregnant with but for us a cot has been a bit of a waste as a cot (though both dcs have used it as a toddler bed) so I don't think it a rediculous to not own one esp if finances are tight as they are often unused Grin

ArabellaTarantella · 03/09/2014 13:05

Can you get her one of those clip on sides for the bed and push the other side against a wall?

I don't somehow think MIL would be happy with OP re-arranging MIL's bedroom, do you?

stripedtortoise · 03/09/2014 13:10

Both my DC slept on beds once they were big enough not to be in a cot. Around a year I guess? I found they always slept better on a bed. I put one side against the wall and a mattress on the other side just in case - neither ever fell out ;)

happyyonisleepyyoni · 03/09/2014 13:16

It is bizarre to have had 3 kids and never had a cot at all.

In the early seventies my baby cousin suffocated after falling down between the bed and the wall. My auntie never got over it.

happy2bhomely · 03/09/2014 13:17

I've had 5 DC and and I've used a cot for a total of about 3 hours between all of them! We co sleep. But, I would not be happy with a one year old left on an adult bed unsupervised. Not because of the bed, but in case they woke and got into trouble. (Opening drawers, pulling wires, plug sockets etc) We have a cot mattress on the floor in a corner of our living room. Baby sleeps there in the evening and for daytime naps and we carry her up when we go to bed.

Pugaboo · 03/09/2014 13:17

I was going to say YABU thinking it would be a younger baby who wasn't yet rolling but for an agile 1 year old I would say YANBU. My son at that age (and still now) would throw himself around like crazy and not just sleep peacefully in one place. Pillows wouldn't stop him either.

Having said that she's agreed to watch him so if you trust her let it go. No point worrying what happened 30 years ago.

HesterShaw · 03/09/2014 13:17

From a non-parent POV, I look after my niece sometimes who is one and when she naps she does so on our bed (a low IKEA double). It wouldn't have occurred to me not to, but she is not a wriggler. If my DSis had said this was not fine, I wouldn't do it, but she hasn't.

grocklebox · 03/09/2014 13:20

And all three of her kids are still alive with all their limbs and faculities in tact? YABVU. And really very rude about her and her parenting. I'm sure there are things you do that could horrify her as well.

ChewyGiraffe · 03/09/2014 13:24

Great that your MIL looks after your baby, but he is your child and if you're not comfortable with the idea of him napping in an adult bed (I wouldn't be either) then I think its just irrelevant whether anyone did this in the 1970's and was fine, etc etc. Just say you're sorry, but you wouldn't be able to relax for a minute thinking he's napping in an an adult bed and you'll take round the travel cot for him.

FidgetPie · 03/09/2014 13:26

We have a cot which gets used for our 8 month old between about 10.30pm and 3am a couple of times a week. At all other times DD sleeps in our bed - when we aren't asleep in it aswell I just put her in the middle and put pillows on the floor. I keep a good ear out for the first signs of movement.

Christelle2207 · 03/09/2014 13:43

grocklebox I think that's a bit harsh. I haven't been rude to MiL, just said that I would rather she didn't let him sleep on the bed unsupervised and she was fine with this.

Thanks for balanced responses, so I probably am being a bit pfb and shouldn't confuse what she felt was safe for her children with what I think is safe for my child. So maybe I need to relax a bit and probably just give her the travel cot for next time. She tends to think I'm a bit OTT about most things (she is probably a lot more relaxed than me having had 3 DSs) but tbf does fit in with my wishes as much as she can.

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Only1scoop · 03/09/2014 13:44

Take the travel cot Op.

I would do exactly the same.

grocklebox · 03/09/2014 13:48

You've been very rude ABOUT her,which is what I said, not TO her. You're on here telling everyone what terrible parenting she used to do.
She managed to raise a son you liked enough to marry, so maybe you should try to fit in with her a bit more rather than just expecting it from her?

tittifilarious · 03/09/2014 13:52

My kids were climbers. Both went into beds when they showed signs of hurling themselves out of their cots - I'm fairly sure this was from around age 1.

As other posters have suggested, a bed guard could be a good compromise.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 03/09/2014 22:43

My 1 year old would be going in a travel cot. I think it's dangerous. It's no skin off MIL's nose if you take the cot surely?

Cheeky76890 · 03/09/2014 22:50

I always put my 1 year old in a nice double when visiting friends houses. Pillows down each side and none have ever fallen out.

maddening · 03/09/2014 22:51

Get a travel cot and give it to her - she will be glad of it if she needs to go to the loo etc and you'll feel better.

MidnightDinosaur · 03/09/2014 23:37

I think at 1, it's fine.

My ds2 never had a cot. He used to take his naps alone on our bed from 6 months ish. He never fell out but then he was able to get down himself properly from about 9 months. He was in a full size single bed of his own around 16months.

However, this is your child and if you're not comfortable with it just take a travel cot around and ask MIL if she could use it. I'm sure she'll be fine if you explain why.

SoonToBeSix · 03/09/2014 23:45

I wouldn't worry about falling out of the bed. I would be more concerned if your ds woke up and played with something dangerous in the bedroom or wandered out and fell down the stairs.

SistersOfPercy · 03/09/2014 23:45

Dd had a cot until get first birthday when she seemingly turned into an escapologist and launched herself over the bars.
Instead of the lovely birthday I'd planned we found ourselves in Ikea buying a bloody low bed Angry

Sootgremlin · 04/09/2014 00:01

You need to do whatever you feel is best and safest for your dc! and have her follow suit! she shouldn't do anything you are uncomfortable with.

However, there isn't anything inherently wrong with it at one, it depends on the situation and the child.

My ds slept on our double bed in the evenings from when he was about that age with bed guards either side, and then co slept from midnight on, until he got his own bed at around 16 months. BUT, the room he slept in was child safe, we had baby gates on the doors, and he just was never a climber or a wanderer, or a roller, he would sit up in bed and call. Also he was big for his age, so had no problems getting up and down off the bed if need be.

Having said that, I wouldn't make that decision with someone else's child, I would probably much rather have a travel cot etc and follow directions, just the same as I might cosleep with my own children but wouldn't ever consider doing it with anyone else's.

Sootgremlin · 04/09/2014 00:03

Ignore those stupid exclamations, my ipad is trying to make me sound more enthusiastic than I am.