To think that if you work FT you absolutely must have a cleaner??

[PisforPeter]

Just pondering..
Do people manage without one??

No, nobody anywhere in the world manages without one if they work full time

I agree.

I mean, how could I work FT, study, be a lone parent all without a cleaner? Oh. I don't have a cleaner.

I worked full time until this month and H works away all week and we don't have a cleaner. I find the cobwebs and dust add a slightly gothic look myself

Seriously?

OP, if you feel you need a cleaner, then you go right ahead and get one. Doesn't matter if you do 70 hour weeks or you fill your days with lunches and getting your nails done. YAB rather U to assume that everyone has one, wants one, needs one or can afford one.

Of course you don't need a cleaner if you work full time!

I need one more now I'm a SAHM as I make more mess!

Actually since I have gone back to work the house is a lot cleaner and tidier because no one is at home in the day.

The best only time I had a cleaner was when my DS was first born, my DPs paid for a cleaner for the first 3 months - best present ever .

No. I couldn't manage without my butler, driver, gardener, nanny, cook, personal hairdresser and valet either. How DO people cope?

people manage by doing less cleaning

or by cleaning a lot and having less leisure time

I'm lucky enough not to have to work at the moment, just wondering about a friend when she has to rtw FT. Mumsnet seems very pro cleaners, that is all

I'm sure it's lovely to have a cleaner but I wouldn't say a necessity, I know plenty of people without one. There's quite a few factors involved as well isn't there such as how many children you have, if you have a partner, how big your house is, how much time you actually spend at work and travelling to work.

I do find some people are generally messier than others as well, personally I clean as I go which reduces mess created and to be honest it doesn't take me long to clean the house. I see a cleaner as a luxury I'm sure many people cannot afford, but I'm sure it's great if you can!

Ah I get it, another joke post

I work FT, am a single parent and have a child with ASD. I simply could not cope without my cleaner, my housekeeper and my personal taxi driver, shopper and arse wiper....... oh no wait, that's all me

Ridiculous. How do you think the vast proportion of the world's population manage?

MrsJoss

I couldn't manage without my butler, driver, gardener, nanny, cook, personal hairdresser and valet either. How DO people cope

Don't you have a secretary and housemaid too? You really should.

All across the world, people manage to work without paid help at home. Imagine.

I had my house cleaned when I moved in. It was spotless.

Then we moved our stuff in. D'oh!

You're wondering if your friend will need a cleaner?

Are you looking for a cleaning job, is that it?

MyLife, of course MrsJoss has a secretary

Who do you think typed her post?

We both work full time but can't afford a cleaner. I would love one but have had to settle for slovenly standards until I win the lottery.

My mum always marvels that I don't have one, she doesn't get that we can't afford a cleaner.

worra I don't think anybody would employ me to do that, my skills are somewhat lacking

Among my friends, most who work full time do have a cleaner, even those without children. I think once you get used to it, it's hard to manage without.

dh and I work full time but cannot afford a cleaner. I would love one though!

My DH and I work full time. We have a cleaner. I heart her and am very sad she is on holiday at the moment.

I could choose to spend my limited free time cleaning.... But life's too short.

Yanbu , although I would take it further and say if you live in a house/ flat/ bungalow you absolutely must have a cleaner regardless of your working hours.

I work full time and have a very ill DH so the only cleaner is me (plus DD now she is older). We manage ok I think.

I dont know anyone personally who has a cleaner. We are far north east and I always assumed cleaners were more commonplace down south.

DH and I both work FT and have a second child on the way. We only outsource childcare.