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To think she was full of shih tzu?

47 replies

UpSheFlew · 20/08/2014 15:28

A woman (me) walks into a cafe to meet my friend. My friend is talking to another woman, who transpires is her neighbour. Never met her before. Never wanna meet her again. Usual pleasantries, name, occupation, number of children, name(s) of children, age(s) of children, colour of underwear etc. I have one DD, aged 1.

Usual oul shite, "ooh, when you going again?" I'm not. We're one and done as the Yanks would say. Lots of reasons, none of them her business therefore, none of them disclosed. Got the inevitable "oh she'll be lonely" etc. Not the first time I've heard that old sausage. I handled it the usual way and pointed out her abundance of cousins and our intention to make sure we do all we can to make sure she's never lonely. Then she says, "...but only one child doesn't make it a real family". No, no, you're right. It isn't a family. It's a... banana. Yes, we aren't a family, we are a banana.

OK, I'm talking ring there, but you get the gist. According to this person, 2 parents and one child are not a real family. Ergo, I am not a real mother I suppose. Is she alone in her thoughts? Anyone here think it's unreasonable to suggest that a 3 person unit is, in fact, a family and not a banana?

I know she probably didn't process her thoughts before opening her gaping hole mouth, but still, it stung. And what did I do? What witty retort did I come back with? Nada, nothing, naught. Well, to be fair, I joined MN and gave out stink to a bunch of strangers. Go me.

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hellsbellsmelons · 20/08/2014 16:28

Hehe - I have 1 DD and no more.
When people used to ask me why I didn't want more I used to say 'because I'm really not that keen on kids'!
That would shut her up for sure.

Learn to stay that good old MNs mantra 'Oh Do Fuck Off Dear'!

Itsfab · 20/08/2014 16:32

Given before I was married I was a member of a family with precisely one member I would have said you most definitely ARE a family.

UpSheFlew · 21/08/2014 14:45

Sorry, only getting back to this now. Thanks once again for your comments. Nice to get some assurance from others that, yes, the woman was indeed, talking shih tzu.

lol @ TheJiminyConjecture! Dunno if I'd ever have the nerve to use that one, but would bloody love to. Reminds me of a (true) story about a girl I know who was TTC. And your retort was her biggest issue in the hole (boom boom) process. Having to do it the ole fashioned way was affecting her joie de sex. She was an anal girl. Not in a retentive sorta way if ya catch me drift...

Crinkle77, your reply is more or less the truth. Chances of number 2 are unlikely and verging on impossible without a lorra, lorra assistance. This is a road we are not willing to go down again. Not that I was gonna spill my guts to a stranger about it. Much as I would have liked to have seen her face if I had.

I'm over it today. For the most part anyway. I suppose she hit a nerve as our decision to move on as a family of three is a relatively new decision and one that we didn't reach lightly might I add. It's always a huge relief and comfort to hear positive stories about only kids. We feel positive about our future with our girl so I guess it just pisses me right off when others see our situation as something abnormal or to be pitied. We feel lucky, we are blessed and we certainly don't need anyone's pity or judgement.

Anywho, better leave it there before I get myself in a tizzy again!

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Toofattorun · 21/08/2014 14:49

Was she old?

UpSheFlew · 21/08/2014 14:51

No, Toofattorun, around the same as myself, a little older maybe (late 30s early 40s). Erm, is that old? (Say no).

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edamsavestheday · 21/08/2014 14:53

The scary thing is, if she lives up to her own views, she must have more than one child herself. Poor sods, brought up by an opinionated dimwit - must have been embarrassing. Or they are just as socially inept and intellectually challenged as her.

MOTU · 21/08/2014 15:25

When I had my daughter I got many cards congratulating dh and I on "becoming a family" ergo general consensus is two people= couple add a child; poof! You're a family!

Tassel · 21/08/2014 15:25

We have only one dd and it doesn't feel like a family to me. It feels incomplete and wrong. I always explain to my husband that we are a triangle and I want to be a square. Sadly for us we just have been unable to make the square.

LaMadame2 · 21/08/2014 16:18

Urgh upsheflew I hate this. I was actually told that I was cruel not to have another one. Got DD - she is happy, fabulous and very much a family with me, 'imself and the dog. We are complete, a unit. A family!!

Isn't it amazing how people think they can comment on this, do they think you might say 'Oh Gosh yes, you're right, what was I thinking? wait a minute, I'll just go home and get up the duff, would you please hold my bag ...'

Trying not to get knickers in a twist

RedRoom · 21/08/2014 16:24

I would not be able to bite my tongue. You did well.

JimmyCorkhill · 21/08/2014 16:34

Jiminy Grin

upSheFlew please start a blog - I love the way you write!

badasahatter · 21/08/2014 16:35

I have a Toblerone rather than a family. Our tricycle shaped living unit is bereft of it's fourth wheel. Sadly, as the main production unit, I was found lacking. I have no problem telling people I couldn't have more children. When I tell them I lost 4 and dd was my miracle girl, they back down rather swiftly.

I don't have anything to add really to the triangle/square family concepts. I just wanted to say thanks for posting this. It gave me the chance to see a few 'I was an only and I grew up normal' type posts. They always cheer me up. Especially as DD is currently in her 'I live in my bedroom and need no-one for succour' phase. Being 13, though, I believe this is perfectly natural for sibling laden kids as well as lonesomes.

Enjoy your uniquely triumphantly blessed family unit OP. It is exactly that...a family.

popcornpaws · 21/08/2014 16:35

When my mil said the exact same thing to me i replied, before i realised, "don't talk shite".
She never mentioned it again!

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 21/08/2014 16:40

I watched lilo and stitch with DS the other day. When stitch says something like 'this is my family, it's small, and broken, but still good' I thought it was a lovely description for my little family which consists of me and my DS! We are a fucking family and she's a dickhead.

fabulousfour · 21/08/2014 16:41

Some people are weird.

Brabra · 21/08/2014 17:37

Yes of course you are a family. But why the massive chip on your shoulder?

UpSheFlew · 21/08/2014 18:12

^ I wasn't aware of the massive chip, Brabra. I've even re-read my posts and still can't see it. Is it an invisible, magic sorta chip that only you can see? Or maybe I blind to massive chips? Even when they're on my shoulder. Shame, I like chips. Wouldn't last long on my shoulder though.

In all seriousness though, I fail to see how feeling upset at someone telling me my family wasn't a 'real family' makes me someone with a massive chip on my shoulder. Would you elaborate please? I'd like to avoid this kind of accusation in future if possible. I wanna be chip free. In the shoulder carrying sense anyway.

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Dolly80 · 21/08/2014 18:42

EhricLovesTheBhrothers I love the descriptions of family in Lilo & Stitch. For a kids film (a disney one at that) it does a good job of showing children how not all families are made the same.

Oh and OP the women you spoke to sounds like an insensitive twit.

Toofattorun · 21/08/2014 21:12

UpSheFlew - That's not old at all (my age so somewhat biased)... Based on her ignorant, small minded, holier than thou comment, I thought she would be an old lady brought up in a different era.

How dare people impose their views on you like that. You're a family. Of course you are! What the hell makes her think you're short of a family?
Did I miss the memo?

Stupid cow.

ItalianWiking84 · 21/08/2014 23:18

I am a only child and have had a happy and joyful (and not lonely) upbringing. So nothing wrong with being an only child, I actually think it has made me more independent and capable of entertaining myself (not saying children with sibling cant be that either :) )

ClayGhost · 21/08/2014 23:41

OP Yes please do write a blog - if you don't already - I see a book deal just from this thread!

And ROTFL at "I prefer anal!"

HicDraconis · 22/08/2014 08:21

DH is an only child. It means we get treble the guilt when he pisses his mother off (actually I get all of it but that's another thread...)

He seems happy and well adjusted enough.

However - if you need 2 kids to be a proper family... and he is an only... of a single parent unit.... does that mean his mother isn't really family so I can lose the guilt? Grin

Loving the idea that having a single child makes you a banana instead of a family - yellowish and slightly curvy?

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