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Childminder who is a recovering alcoholic

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connedbird · 19/08/2014 15:08

Would I be unreasonable to make Ofsted aware of a person who has recently registered as a childminder but who has also recently been referred to AA following a recent mid day alcohol abuse episode which resulted in her children being temporarily removed by the police?

She has a sponsor and is attending AA meetings/ following 12 steps, so is by all accounts happily getting her life on track. Social services have deemed her suitable to continue looking after her own children on the understanding that she continues with AA and doesn't drink around the children. Also that she leaves her partner due to DV from both sides which she has done.

So, I don't want to be a bitch... but having left my own children with childminders from babies, I feel like it would be something I'd want to know that Ofsted had had the chance to assess before my children were left with a minder.

Wondering if I should even stick my nose in... maybe my own concerns about leaving my pfb DD when she was small are clouding my judgement.

Would SS have made Ofsted aware anyway?

What are your thoughts??

OP posts:
NeedsAsockamnesty · 22/08/2014 09:14

So looking at your own posts you cannot see how you contributed hugely to the derail of the thread from a what do I do into a lets not bash childminders? You took it in a direction that clearly implied you were taking it as a personal affront against childminders.

I'm not going to go through your posting history in order to 'back me up' because i dont need to its really rather obvious and quite frankly I don't care enough about it to do so. This thread is a very clear example of what I am referring to as is your inability to to take a graceful way out and insistence in calling my posts personal attacks when they are blatantly not intended in that way at all.had

And being astounded to the point of disbelief about the information exchange within the enhanced DRB system? That sails rather close to troll hunting without crossing the line and saying it.

I have posted a link to a information page about the checks that very clearly shows they are not quite as in depth as people tend to think they are and according to ofstead they inspect on average every 3 years usually only when you actually have mindees.

I compleatly understand that you and other childcare professionals may feel got at and compelled to be defensive by threads like this but its inappropriate and when they go the way lots do like this one,it makes it frustrating,it feels like such a taboo subject (due to the sensitivities surrounding it) that it acts like a cover in a way. And it does make it look very much like you do it for the reason I pointed out earlier (the one you helpfully high lighted and interpreted as me directly quoting previous posts.)

Those posts of yours you reposted, go read them again.

CantUnderstandNewtonsTheory · 22/08/2014 09:20

Well done for reporting op, imagine if you hadn't and something happened to one of the children in her care? You'd never forgive yourself!

I think some people have been quite harsh towards myrandomfamily, she wasn't saying all childminders are crap or anything like that, just that she wouldn't send her children to one because it would be too easy to cover up any issues. It doesn't matter that most are excellent or that they usually meet up and go out and about with their mindees, some might not and if you have a non verbal child it is impossible to know what goes on when you're not there. How often do we see threads on here from people wondering if they should report things? Usually they are not talking about the first time they have seen something worrying which means the child was left in that person's care while they wondered what to do. At least in a nursery there will be other people there who can step in if one of the child carers is incapable of looking after the children and it would be much harder to cover things up. Obviously lots of people disagree and that's fine but it is up to me as a mother to make what I think are the best choices for my children and this is what I choose for them.

Tanith · 22/08/2014 12:26

Don't worry, Ineedasockamnesty : MN have done the decent thing for you and removed the personal attack you made.

I've already answered re: the comment you quote that I made in my first post. Take a look back. It's actually the only post where I address the Op, apart from letting her know I'd PM'd her, so "jumping all over the Op" is quite an exaggeration, don't you think?

I have kept on trying to get you to justify or remove your remarks because you avoided doing so when I pointed them out to you.
I'll leave it now those accusations have been removed.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 22/08/2014 13:10

I did not make a personal attack you viewing it as one says rather more about you than it does me.

I was not worried. You however must feel validated and delighted.

the op usually means the original poster it quite clearly was not her saying she would never use a childminder that was the comment you would not let slide

Tanith · 22/08/2014 13:28

Sorry - just had this pointed out to me!

Troll-hunting? GrinGrinGrin Me?? GrinGrinGrin

How did I miss that?!!

In all my days, I never thought anyone would ever accuse me of troll-hunting! I hate troll-hunting - it's well documented on here!
Sorry - nearly troll-hunting. Let's be accurate.

Ineedasockamnesty I think you'd better leave it now. It's obvious you don't know me or my posting style at all.

Tanith · 22/08/2014 13:33

Can'tunderstandNewton (me neither Smile)

I think what people were pointing out is that the same applies to any childcare. There's a thread in the Nurseries section at the moment where a parent just happened to see on the CCTV that a member of staff treated a little girl in a way she objected to. When she tried to draw attention to it, the staff with her didn't think it was a problem.

It was completely by chance that she was there at all.

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