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UK and America are two countries separated by a common language, UK and US Q&A

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Pipbin · 18/08/2014 20:23

Continuation of the previous thread where posters from the UK ask questions like 'what the hell is going on with the gaps in US toilet doors'; and posters fro the US ask things like 'what is with wearing stripes'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a2149133-to-think-there-is-something-wrong-with-Americans?msgid=48969042#48969042

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KateBeckett · 20/08/2014 20:03

Thank you to all who have explained about school supply lists! A follow up question - do parents mind? It sounds like a pretty fab idea to stretch the school budget, but I have occasionally encountered parents who resent sending the few junk craft bits and jobs we ask for, so not sure how it would go down if we asked for pencils and paper!

I would love to be able to ask for things like books though!

wobblyweebles · 20/08/2014 20:05

My experience is that they want your child in the right grade for them. They start school a year later in the US so when we moved from the UK they did hold DD back to keep her with her age group.

AugustAngst · 20/08/2014 20:09

Have to say all the Ghiradelli chocolate I've been eating during my trip has been pretty good!

Thanks Squirrelled/Alice for comments re driving and 'permanent press'.

seagull70 · 20/08/2014 20:55

Is it true that Americans don't use the word 'fortnight'?

You just simply say 'in two weeks time'

You must think that this is just an utterly bonkers made-up Brit word then? Grin

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 20/08/2014 20:56

chocolate and beer soooo much better here. So dangerous to live in a place where those two products are so good (she says as she watches GBBO on records Grin). This country is so bad for my weight. All the yummy food. I really have to watch myself.

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 20/08/2014 20:58

I had to ask someone what a fortnight was here. I'd heard the word, but actually didn't know for sure what it was. And in the office I worked in when I first got to the UK, they were discussing the computer system in a meeting and someone made some comment about it being pants and I had to ask if that was good or bad. Blush I got LOADS of teasing about that!

Bogeyface · 20/08/2014 20:59

Sennight is the word for week in olde worlde English. I think it sounds nicer than week!

seagull70 · 20/08/2014 21:03

Don't fret Alice - my American friend was having a job interview with a Primary School Head about 48 hours after setting foot on English soil for the very first time.

She had heard the word 'wanker' bandied about a few times, wasn't really sure what it meant but it sounded very 'British' and she actually used the word in her interview Shock, not sure of context but the Head wasn't impressed.

Grin
SconeRhymesWithGone · 20/08/2014 21:07

When I was a student in the UK, one of my American friends named Miranda had to be counseled not to use her nickname due to her propensity to bounce up to people, stick out her hand and announce in her thick Mississippi accent "Hi, I'm Randy."

x2boys · 20/08/2014 21:10

A few/things I would like to ask about your high schools what are honour rolls ,homecoming queens ,do they still have prom king and I watched way too much films like pretty in pink etc as a young teen and read to many sweet valley high book so I realise my views on your high schools maybe somewhat stuck in the 80,s

Bogeyface · 20/08/2014 21:10

Scone tbh in certain pubs and clubs she would have been fine, she certainly wouldnt have to pay for a drink all night :o

Didnt Bette Midler misunderstand the swearing rules on UK TV? I think it was Loose Women or something and she said Arsehole or Wanker or another mainly UK swearword and they all had a fit!

x2boys · 20/08/2014 21:12

Prom king and queen!

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 20/08/2014 21:15

seagull Grin I love that word, but am careful not to use it when I shouldn't. It just has such a satisfying sound when you're irritated at someone.

scone oh my! how funny! "I'm Randy." that could be embarrassing.

One thing I did notice is that in the states when you look back and forth before walking across the street, it's the opposite of the way you look in the UK. You're expecting the traffic coming from the wrong way on the wrong side - which means invariably you damn near walk out in front of a bus at some point (which I did, but was pulled back by my stbx). It's embarrassing and disorienting - if you're struggling with a little bit of culture shock, it makes you feel like you're about 5 years old, not being able to even cross the blasted (bloody) street.

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 20/08/2014 21:20

when I was in high school, homecoming king and queen were voted by the whole school, but they had to be seniors (12th grade), so it was basically a popularity contest. They rode on a float in the homecoming parade as well.

Honour rolls were "A honor roll" and "B honor roll"... if your grades of all your classes that semester (term) were A's (90% and above), then you were on the A honor roll. If they were 80% and above, the B honor roll. (I was always on the A honor roll Grin - my parents would have been VERY displeased if I wasn't! eeek)

allisgood1 · 20/08/2014 21:39

I was on the homecoming court :)
I don't remember there being a prom king and queen. Thank you 90210 for that one!
And the honor roll is based on good grades, mainly A's and B's. Its something to strive for (and will get you into a good University).

Sneepy · 20/08/2014 22:21

Alternate side parking is so the street can be cleaned. It's not every day, usually once or twice a week you have to move your car. It only really exists in cities where there's limited off-street parking.

mathanxiety · 20/08/2014 22:40

School supplies are bought by parents ime. At the DCs' RC school the list is pretty long but of course most items can be reused from year to year so you don't end up spending a fortune every summer. For art, the art department supplies many of the items occasionally required for various projects (yarn, pipe cleaners, etc) but there are some projects where used household items like coffee cans or milk containers are asked for. Parents just sigh and buy what is needed. At least the list is reasonably well laid out. I have seen parents holding separate pages for each child. I know the local public elementary schools also have lists but they tend to be a lot shorter. No lists for the public HS. Individual teachers ask students to get whatever they say is necessary for their class, usually only one or two items per class.

The schools supply all textbooks.

By contrast, in school in Ireland when I was a student (at least in Dublin anyway), parents bought both school supplies and books for primary and secondary schools. There used to be lines out the door of one particular second hand bookshop (Greene's, now closed afaik) and all the way down the street, coming up to the start of the school year.

WRT evolution and the teaching of religion in school:
Religion is not taught in public schools, nor are there religious assemblies or assemblies where prayer to any higher power is expressed. The closest you might get to hearing about religion in a public school is in history class. In schools run by religious denominations there are religion classes where the religion of whatever denomination runs the school is taught. My experience is of a RC elementary, where the DCs studied comparative religion in history, but religion class was for teaching RC concepts. In the public HS they only encountered mention of religion in various history courses and philosophy. I was truly shocked that one particular English teacher who taught both DD2 and DD3 managed to impart her Buddhist beliefs to their classes, and I considered complaining but let it go.

The argument on evolution has been fought on a district by district basis afaik. Intelligent design would never fly in public or RC schools here, but DD3 has a friend who went to a 'Christian Academy' for elementary who had much inner turmoil in HS Biology.

School cutoff date here is something like 3 September, or it used to be. I think that put it in line with the local city school district that never started the school year until after Labor Day. Holding students back because of a late birthday is a possibility here, but in general it really depends on your District policy.

Alternate side parking allows street cleaning machines to attack one side of a street on their rounds at night. Eventually both sides of the street will be cleaned. Parking is a huge hassle where I am if you don't have a spot attached to your condo or apartment, or house. You might end up renting a municipal spot a good long hike from your home, and long swathes of municipal streets in some parts of the suburb are for monthly parking renters only overnight to 7am. The game changes if those streets are snow routes and there is a snowfall of over 2 inches. In that case you have to use your ingenuity and park elsewhere. There are also parking restrictions during leaf removal season. Leaves are removed to prevent flooding and freezing.

If you go on holiday you would probably have to leave your car in a remote airport lot. If you are in hospital you might ask a neighbour to move your car daily. In my suburb, you can't park on a street overnight for more than three nights per month (this is a regulation separate from the monthly street parking spot rental). It used to be a ridiculous five nights a year. You have to call the parking hotline after 10 pm to notify the parking office of your car's plate number, make and model and location. After you have used up your three nights for any given month you can buy nightly parking passes. I suspect municipal parking ticket revenue is very high. I got several tickets for leaving my car parked on the street outside my house overnight, having just forgotten to drive it around to my garage before hitting the hay.

I would feel so unsafe if my roommate was bringing people back to our bedroom for sex. Especially drunk men. I think that is terrible that you are subjected to that.
Quite often, your initial Housing questionnaire will include a question about opposite sex visitors to your room, and the university will try to match you with a roommate whose answer to that one corresponds to yours. You are supposed to negotiate matters like this with your roommate when you first get thrown together, and there is a student Resident Advisor on every floor of a dorm building to help sort out conflicts all year. If you find you are paired with a complete jerk you normally have a period at the start of the year when the university will try to find you another room. If problems crop up after that, it will be harder to find you alternative lodging but not impossible, and meantime you engage in dispute resolution or even mediation with the RA. At 18, you are expected to be able to speak up if you find you are uncomfortable, and to negotiate some sort of reasonable compromise.

Tanith · 20/08/2014 22:46

Seagull70, I had an American colleague and friend staying with me many years ago.
There we were in the pub - a lovely, quaint English one I knew he'd love - when he suddenly asked "So tell me. What is a 'wanker'?" Shock Blush

The whole pub went silent while they waited to hear what I would answer Grin

mathanxiety · 20/08/2014 23:01

Seagull -- you rarely see a fly indoors because Americans use screens for open windows to keep them out, and to keep mosquitoes out too. So the sight of a fly indoors might be really jarring to an American mother.

There is very little evidence of attention to grooming around here Smile, especially in winter.

Katsup/catsup is an old fashioned form of the word ketchup. Ketchup/catsup

CheerfulYank · 20/08/2014 23:23

We had a homecoming king and queen and a Winter Frolic court, too. No prom king or queen though. :)

No, we don't mind getting school supplies. :) It's just what we do so it wouldn't occur to us to mind, iykwim.

Surfsup1 · 20/08/2014 23:33

Sorry if this one's been asked before, but how did the main course of a meal come to be known as an entree in America? It doesn't seem to make sense!?

x2boys · 20/08/2014 23:38

Am I getting g mixed up with prom queen then? I thought Carrie was a prom queen in Carrie!!

Bogeyface · 20/08/2014 23:51

Re Entree I know this!!

The Entree was historically one course in a grand meal of many courses. You know the old school banquet of soup, fish, entree, meat, pie/pudding, dessert, cheese, etc? Over the years the fish, meat and pie courses got dropped as individual courses and got served instead of or as part of the entree so the entree became the main course. Entree is food served between 2 other courses so as long as you have first and third courses, entree is correct.

Thank you Friends, without you I would never have Googled it and would never have known!

It bugs me too though, it does sound wrong even though I know it isnt!

SconeRhymesWithGone · 20/08/2014 23:55

Evidently at one time "entree" was the third or so course of a 6-7 course dinner (think Edwardian times) and was fairly substantial; it was usually followed by a roast and then other courses. As chefs began to streamline meals and reduce the number of courses, the entree course became the main course, and American chefs kept the name.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 21/08/2014 00:11

Cross-post, with Bogey. I did not know this either until the internet told me. Smile