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Need advice desperatly! is my daughters coach allowed to hold my personal property until u pay her all the fees I owe her?

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lauramichelle21 · 17/08/2014 10:10

My daughters coach will not give me my jacket back, does she have the right to do this? I took my daughter out of the club as she was being bullied by another child. I acknowledged that I owe fees which I have asked for account details to pay the money off weekly as I cant afford to pay it in one. I had asked another mum to pick it up and the coach wouldnt let her. Im sure she has no right to keep my jacket but I dont know what to do next, I have messaged her several times asking for my jacket and she just appears to be ignoring me.

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Bakeoffcakes · 17/08/2014 12:04

200 is a lot to owe her.

Sallyingforth · 17/08/2014 12:05

You are dripfeeding us I'm afraid.

Of course it's wrong for her to keep hold of your jacket, but it's no use to her so she will argue that she doesn't intend to keep it.

It sounds like she is pissed off with not getting her money and is showing her resentment in the only way she can.

LoxleyBarrett · 17/08/2014 12:05

So you owe £200. How much are you offering to pay each week? That is quite a debt to run up over cheerleading classes.

AgentProvocateur · 17/08/2014 12:28

You should have taken your daughter out as soon as you foresaw an issue with paying. It's really unfair to expect small businesses, who will have made plans and forecasts based on their anticipated income, to put up with late payment or payment in installments. You wouldn't but £100 of food in the supermarket and ask if you could pay in back at a tenner a week, so why do it to your coach?

LIZS · 17/08/2014 12:29

So is that £200 to cover sessions already taken (ie. last term) or in lieu of notice that she was leaving ? Can't you just pop along to the club when it normally takes place and come to an agreement. She's not blanking you , she may never even have received your messages.

Linskibinski · 17/08/2014 12:39

You entered into a contract when you booked the classes, you didn't pay so the coach is a creditor. It is lawful to keep an item of property in lieu of payment of a debt.it isn't theft. Pay what you owe and she will return the coat.

Unexpected · 17/08/2014 12:42

Although you are unhappy with how the bullying has been dealt with (albeit it sounds like two specific instances rather than a long-term problem?), the coach has been understanding in letting you have a £200 deficit in your payments. That sounds like quite a lot of classes owing.There is no incentive for her to continue letting you pay the money off piecemeal. How much are you proposing to pay per week?

ScarlettlovesRhett · 17/08/2014 12:47

You can talk with her face to face on the usual club nights surely?

£200 is a LOT of unpaid, owed fees - I'm not surprised she has no faith in your promises to pay tbh, especially because your daughter no longer attends.

Go and see her and discuss the whole issue like adults, instead of texts and assumptions - work out and sign up to an agreed repayment plan and get your jacket back.

If she refuses to return it to you in those circumstances, then that is a whole different issue and she would be unreasonable - at the moment, it's you who is imo.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 17/08/2014 12:48

You owe her £200 quid and you are moaning that she has your jacket?

Frankly I'd have your jacket on ebay by now.

Bakeoffcakes · 17/08/2014 12:58

How much are the classes? If they're £10 a class, which is a lot, that's 20 lessons you haven't paid for. That's 2 terms of classes. I'm not surprised she's kept your coat.

BookABooSue · 17/08/2014 12:59

If someone owes you money, you can't just seize their goods (or in this case keep your jacket). Legally she'd have to go through a small claims court.

Go to the next class and speak to her and put in writing the repayment schedule you're offering, and also that you want your jacket returned. Obviously the teacher is worried that you're using the bullying as an excuse and might try to avoid paying your debt. You need to make it c!ear that isn't the case.

Nomama · 17/08/2014 13:18

Bullying has not been evidenced, if it happened twice and the coach was not approached at the time then she has no way of knowing what actually happened. If the other girl has moved classes and has no track record then the coach is doing the right thing - not stigmatising her on the uncorroborated word of one other person. That doesn't mean the coach won't be keeping an eye out for further trouble though.

Your jacket, the coach was right not to give it t a 3rd party. If it went missing she would be liable. Then it may be the only thing she has to keep you in contact - we don't know why she has not responded, maybe she wants to talk to you face to face!

That is a lot of money to owe. Maybe the coach has reservations about the bullying because she has a sinking feeling that you will use it to get out pf paying your debt. That would not be unreasonable on her part.

Go and talk to her and get it all sorted out.

Ronmione · 17/08/2014 13:39

So you owe her £200.00 is this for class's taken or classes booked?

Tbh I think you are completely unreasonable to owe someone £200 and offer to pay weekly.

Maybe she can return your coat weekly, one sleeve at a time

ThatBloodyWoman · 17/08/2014 16:26

I think that she needs to returrn the jacket.
If she will not enter into a verbal dialogue nor respond to written communication in order to sort this out, then so be it.
But if you cannot communicate with her effectively you cannot arrange to repay the money.
Balls in her court.

londonrach · 17/08/2014 16:43

£200! I thought it would less than £20 but your post. £200 That's a lot of money to owe someone. The bulling issue has been resolved by the sounds of it. You have no way of knowing she received your emails. Be warned if its that much debt to the teacher she might be a small claim into court. The jacket is the least of your worries. Go and talk to her face to face like an adult.

whois · 17/08/2014 16:50

Uh, £200 is a massive debt!

Go and see the coach on the next session, pay her the £200 and get your coat back.

cricketpitch · 17/08/2014 16:55

Seriously £200? And you allowed your daughter to continue doing the class? And out of goodwill or out of not wanting to penalise your DD the coach kept her on and now you can't pay? If I am reading this right then you are not being fair or reasonable at all.

The bullying issue sounds like an excuse to me - to get out of paying. It has been dealt with. And anyway you wouldn't put your daughter back in the class as you cannot pay so it sounds like a red herring.

I expect you will get your jacket back - no good to her unless it is diamond-studded.

Go and see her. Pay her back what you owe.

annielouisa · 17/08/2014 17:02

I think you should have removed your DD from these classes when paying for them became a huge issue. I do not know whether the coach is within her rights to keep your jacket but I think you have handled things badly to accrue such a large debt.

I think the coach probably feels you have now removed your DD and will not clear your debt. At first I thought she wanted money for the broken contract now it appears you are in debt for classes already taken is that correct?

Greengrow · 17/08/2014 17:16

Something called a "lien" may apply.If you take a car in to be serviced and you do not pay the garage may keep the car until you do. A solicitor can hold your papers until you pay.

Have you got something you can sell like a TV, car or mobile phone to sell or pawn until you can pay the debt?

BakerStreetSaxRift · 17/08/2014 17:19

OP, you sound like a real PITA.

You're lucky it's only your cost she has. She sounds very reasonable and you have taken the piss

deakymom · 17/08/2014 17:26

its not really the ops fault if this person won't take her calls i mean how does she expect to resolve it without speaking to her? telepathy pigeon post?

bbcessex · 17/08/2014 17:28

The coach runs a business... if she's allowed you to run up a debt, by continuing to let your child attend regularly whilst you had a back log of fees, then that's up to her. Presumably that is a quite a few weeks of sessions without paying?

It's petty to keep your jacket.

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HotPinkWeaselWearingLederhosen · 17/08/2014 17:32

If she is with holding your jacket on lieu of funds get her to write in down.

Then let her keep the jacket

Nancy66 · 17/08/2014 17:33

This is the coach's job. Could you survive if you weren't paid?

notagainffffffffs · 17/08/2014 17:34

In response to your question. No she can not hold on to your jacket, you need to go in in person and ask for your jacket, with the first of your installments to show willing. Youre getting a pretty hard time here, it is awful to be in debt/have money troubles so you have my sympathy :) best thing you can do iw face your responsibilities x

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