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To think that if there is a doorbell, you should use it

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HumptyDumptyBumpty · 09/08/2014 13:51

Bloody postman. Hammers on door. Rings bell. Hammers some more.
DD had just gone down for a nap, unwillingly, and i was upstairs finally having a wash (difficult morning) and now she is wide awake. I had to run down in my towel to answer the door.

Why hammer on the door with your fist? The doorbell is there for a reason. I can hear it anywhere in the house and it doesn't wake her.

I'm going to have to put a sign up on the door, aren't I? Which makes me look incredibly precious. FFS. I've asked him before not to do it,but he forgets/doesn't care. Angry

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PotOfYoghurt · 09/08/2014 13:58

I don't understand it either. I don't even have any sleeping babies, it just annoys me.

Why would you not use a doorbell if there's one there?

ObfusKate · 09/08/2014 14:01

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LadySybilLikesCake · 09/08/2014 14:04

What about hammering on your door at 9am on a Saturday because your neighbour can't be arsed to answer theirs? Angry

I'd stick a sign up. I'm putting a 'do not disturb unless it's something for this house' sign on mine.

ShadowStar · 09/08/2014 14:05

It's bizarre.

One of the postmen who comes to our house is like that. Rings the bell, and then starts hammering away, usually within about 2seconds of ringing the bell, with the sort of frenzied knocking that would really only be appropriate if he'd spotted that our house was on fire or suchlike.

Even if I was waiting in the hall with the key in my hand I don't think there'd be time to answer the door between him ringing the bell and starting to hammer at the door.

Sirzy · 09/08/2014 14:05

I bet they don't use the bell because of the amount of bells which don't work!

LadySybilLikesCake · 09/08/2014 14:09

I don't get why they knock for a few seconds, then go and wake me the neighbours up without waiting for someone to answer the door! I know they are busy, but why not be patient before you wake someone else up?

I'm in a grumpy mood, sorry.

redshifter · 09/08/2014 14:10

Can your postie hear the bell? So many bells are not working aand if they are can be silent to the calller (who may have hearing problems) then you get a complaint that you didn't knock, so you knock and ring to be sure. Postie may have 700 - 800 delivery points on their round, can be hard to remeber everyowhen you disturb themne's individual requests.
Are you saying the bell doesn't wake DD but the knocking does? Then maybe your bell isn't loud enough for postie to hear.
Anyway such is life. His job is to let you know he is at your door, and knock loudly enough to wake you up if you are asleep. He can't say to his manager that he only knocked quietly in case the customer was asleep, working nights, baby asleep etc. Even though some customers can be very rude and aggressive when you disturb them. YABU

ajandjjmum · 09/08/2014 14:11

I normally answer the door with a grumpy 'banging on the door continually won't make me get here any faster'.

Just rude.

enderwoman · 09/08/2014 14:53

Apparently fewer doorbells work than don't so many people will knock rather than ring the bell.

Tbh I have also rung doorbells and wondered if it's working or if I'm standing outside a door looking stupid.

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 09/08/2014 15:19

redshifter I take your point, but you can hear the bell from outside! I've just checked. Also, he starts by hammering (it's not knocking, it's with the side of his fist on the window pane part) then rings the bell. The bell is audible, but not as sudden a noise so doesn't disturb DD, that's why we got it!

Also, I am almost always at home, and have said if I'm not, I'm happy to have parcels left behind the hedge - he suggested this and I agreed.

YY to why on the glass FFS. So dangerous if single glazed (our door is too).

Is a sign too precious? It is, isn't it. Hmm

Can you buy baby earplugs? Grin

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TheresAlwaysLegoInMyPocket · 09/08/2014 15:21

Redshifter is spot on. We are allocated something like 90 seconds per delivery and that includes knocking on 2 neighbours and writing cards and traipsing back to put the card through. You often can't hear if a bell is working so 9 times out of 10 I'll use the knocker.
We are not ( well I am not) rude and I am not psychic, I don't know if you are I nights or your baby is asleep or if you're in be back garden. I am just trying to do my job.
Ask yourself, would you be on here complaining if you had a missed delivery card while you were in because you hadn't heard the door?

I'm not meaning to be snippy, just get pissed off sometimes.

TheresAlwaysLegoInMyPocket · 09/08/2014 15:25

And also, the time it takes you to get to your door seems longer when you're on the outside waiting for it to open Smile

If he can hear your bell though, he shouldn't be hammering on your glass.

ElephantsNeverForgive · 09/08/2014 15:32

My hearing isn't very good, the house has been extended so there is a great thick old external wall between most of the house and the door.

If you knock I will not hear, if you use the bell, which is in the old part of the house I will.

I have finally got our usual post lady trained, but far to many delivery men don't see the bell or ignore it.

Lally112 · 09/08/2014 15:34

True what redshifter said - my doorbell doesn't work, I cant be assed fixing it (there is a long list of things that need fixing first) and I don't need it, the dogs start going nuts the minute there someone around. Posties are always getting accused of not knocking and ringing so I can see why they do it.

FruVikingessOla · 09/08/2014 15:44

Our doorbell doesn't work (ancient, Victorian), so we have a small sticker saying "doorbell doesn't work, please use knocker on letterbox" (or words to that effect).

Fine - most people take notice of that ..... except the idiots who insist on HAMMERING ON THE GLASS PANELS ON THE FRONT DOOR. There's a sodding door knocker FFS.

ObfusKate · 09/08/2014 15:52

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redshifter · 09/08/2014 16:11

Can your postie hear the bell? So many bells are not working aand if they are can be silent to the calller (who may have hearing problems) then you get a complaint that you didn't knock, so you knock and ring to be sure. Postie may have 700 - 800 delivery points on their round, can be hard to remeber everyowhen you disturb themne's individual requests.
Are you saying the bell doesn't wake DD but the knocking does? Then maybe your bell isn't loud enough for postie to hear.
Anyway such is life. His job is to let you know he is at your door, and knock loudly enough to wake you up if you are asleep. He can't say to his manager that he only knocked quietly in case the customer was asleep, working nights, baby asleep etc. Even though some customers can be very rude and aggressive when you disturb them. YABU

ObfusKate · 09/08/2014 16:17

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redshifter · 09/08/2014 16:30

Also, I am almost always at home, and have said if I'm not, I'm happy to have parcels left behind the hedge - he suggested this and I agreed.
I was a postie for twenty years. I used to do this but wouldn't these days. It is a sackable offence and even if you know and trust the customer if the item goes missing you can be investigated for theft, you can't say "I left it behind the hedge" as that could lose you your job. Also posties have done this and it advertised that no one was home resulting in burgled house and big trouble for postie.

YY to why on the glass FFS. So dangerous if single glazed (our door is too).

Yes this does seem unnecessary.

Is a sign too precious? It is, isn't it. - no, I don't think it is precious at all, you will be helping and informing the delivery person, but things have got so crazy now, if I was a postman still I would take a pic of sign with my pkone just to cover myself.

If you knock I will not hear, if you use the bell, which is in the old part of the house I will.
But how does the delivery person know this? There job is to make sure you here them call.

I have finally got our usual post lady trained, - Nice of you. Did you use biscuits? Grin

We are allocated something like 90 seconds per delivery and that includes knocking on 2 neighbours and writing cards and traipsing back to put the card through.

Exactly. Postal rounds have changed drastically in recent years. They are much, much bigger due to less actual letters that go through the letterbox and more items such as parcels and signed for that you need the customer to come to the door. In my day you had to wait 3 minutes for an answer but I believe you are told to only wait 90 seconds now. But with waiting a reasonable 'patient' amount of time you can end up taking an average of 3 mins for each item you need to knock for. Given that these days you can have to knock for 50 items a day sometimes that is 2 hours. 3 mins may seem a short time to you but seems an age to the postman.

These days many postmen are on 18 - 27 hour (though expected to work lots more hours when it suits) 3 month contracts and under immense pressure to finish on time and can't claim payment for extra hours taken because they wanted to be patient while customers took their time answering the door. Their contract would probably not be renewed.
So please try and be a bit more understanding if he seems impatient. You may be the 20th house he house stood outside in the rain soaking wet, and it would be his own time ,unpaid, while you saunter down shouting " alright, alright, what's the rush?"

Walk a mile in someone elses shoes and all that.

Having all this. I too get really annoyed at this sort of thing. I try to catch myself and remeber what it was like. Can't blame you though OP. It is a natural reaction.

redshifter · 09/08/2014 16:34

That's kind of pointless because there's no way they'll wait long enough for me to get to the door from my bedroom

What do you suggest they do though? Knock very quietly so you don't hear? Or maybe slip a card through and just say they knocked? They can't win sometimes. How long should they wait? 1 min? 2? 5? 10?

Wait ten mins at each house and finish round at nightfall? Then people will complain they got woken up after they went to bed.

ObfusKate · 09/08/2014 16:35

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DeWee · 09/08/2014 16:44

Our bell doesn't work.
At least it's a wireless one and it doesn't ring if our button is pressed. It rings however a lovely tune if the neighbours is used. Hmm

Ours do wait long enough for you to wake up, throw clothes on and stagger downstairs... or maybe they're just used to our household. Grin

bauhausfan · 09/08/2014 16:48

My sympathy is with the postie (used to be one myself) - they have such a short time to make all their deliveries that they don't even have time to stand and have a chat like they used to pre-privatisation.

redshifter · 09/08/2014 17:37

ust a saying that unless someone happens to be asleep on the sofa, knocking loudly enough to wake sleeping persons is not necessary as they won't have time to get to the door anyway

Yeah, I know what you mean. [Smile] But they have to knock loud enough to wake you up anyway and then wait for the time they are told and then leave. A minute before you get to the door and find a card on your mat. You then have to make your way to the delivery office, possibly pay extortionate parking and queue for ages on your day off. The whole thing is rubbish really. Both customers and posties have my sympathy.
Dunno what the answer is though.

redexpat · 09/08/2014 18:10

I got really fed up with tradesman knocking rather than using the bell so i got really sarcy and said do you see this wonderful piece of technology? You press it, and i can hear a bell, and youll see a light come on here. Isnt it amazing what they can do nowadays?

Dont have this with the postman. He just walks in Grin We are in the country so this is normal.

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