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Telling off other people's kids

17 replies

Oen1 · 08/08/2014 20:59

I don't often post on here but something happened this week which I'd like a different opinion on.

A bit of background - my 2 DS's have a friend on the street (doesn't live here, his grandparents do). This boy is selfish, destructive (deliberately breaking my boys' stuff), cheeky, sly and sneaky. He treats my house like his own, helping himself to stuff even though I've told him to ask first several times. I've even caught him going through upstairs cupboards. He's eleven, going to comp in September, the same as DS1, thankfully not the same comp.

This week things have come to a head. He turned up early Wednesday morning, came in and played on the xbox for a bit with my two. I then kicked them out - several times. I had to take the dog for a walk so I told them all that I didn't want them in the house while I was out, and decided to lock up before I left. I was only going to be 20 -30 minutes so not long for them to be outside and the weather was lovely. Before I'd even got around the corner my eldest was running after me to say that this boy and my youngest had got into the house (I'd left the patio door unlocked) and locked him out. I told him I'd deal with them when I got back.

When I did get back (I cut the walk short) this boy had gone out with his aunt. My youngest had a bollocking off me. He told me that it was the other boy's idea to try the patio door and when he found it unlocked said "come on, let's go in". My youngest (9) is no angel and can usually be found in the centre of any trouble, so he had a good talking to about not always doing what someone else says if he know it's wrong.

Half an hour later, this boy came back, with his swimming stuff. I told him we weren't going swimming now after what he and DS2 had done. He tried telling me that it was DS2's idea, which it might well have been but this other boy is 11 and I'd specifically said that I didn't want any of them in the house while I was out, so he should have been old enough to know better. I told him that what he and DS2 had done was sly and sneaky and I was absolutely livid that they had disobeyed my instruction. I made sure that I included DS2 in this. I told him that as he couldn't respect my rules in my home that from now on he wouldn't be allowed in. I told him that he could still play with the boys and come and call for them, but he wouldn't be allowed in the house. I ended the conversation by saying that I certainly wouldn't be taking any of them swimming now, and closed the door. I didn't shout at all during this exchange - I was quite calm.

The grandmother called me the following morning to say that her little pudding is very upset and he'd told her that he wasn't allowed in my house ever again. I confirmed this and explained the reason why. Her response was along the lines of "kids aye?" in a doting sort of voice. She then told me that she was often catching them trying to sneak into her house when she'd thrown them out, in a laughing sort of manner.

Now, to me it's one thing to say "right boys that's enough xbox now, go out to play", and completely different when you specifically say that no one is to go into the house while I'm out, especially after they've watched me locking the front door.

I didn't back down during the conversation with the gran, stuck to my guns, and certainly didn't apologise. I also didn't mention his past misdemeanours, but wish I had.

So what do others think? Would you have done the same? Would there have been a better way to deal with the situation? Would you have told the grandmother the full truth about her little angel?

Sorry for the lengthy ramble.

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Finola1step · 08/08/2014 21:06

It's your home. If you don't want this kid it in, that's your choice. Sounds like he's had plenty of chances.

Do not back down. It sounds like this is the perfect time to make it crystal clear to your dc that if you say that someone isn't welcome, then you mean it.

notagainffffffffs · 08/08/2014 21:06

Id have made them all walk the dog with me tbh.

I do tell off other people's kids if theyre playing in my garden or dashing around a cafe/my work. Sounfs luke this little boy needs boundaries.

ADHDNoodles · 08/08/2014 21:06

Your house, your rules.

I find adults are worse than the kids, really they're a lost cause as little Johnny can do no wrong. I always talk to the kids directly and when they find out they have consequences for their behavior, they shape up.

However, telling an 11 year old never again is a bit dramatic. I'd give it a few weeks, and then he can earn your trust to be let back in.

Oen1 · 08/08/2014 21:09

Forgot to add that the grandmother has history of defending her poor little angel even when he's telling lies and getting other kids into serious trouble. She's caused major bad feeling amongst some parents on the street. One of our neighbours with a daughter in DS2's class, who I'm reasonably friendly with, had arranged for my two to go for a drive in a Ferrari, along with her daughter (her husband's a mechanic). This happened to be at a time when her GS was around. The gran and mother then put a note through the other neighbour's door, stating how unfair it was that their precious child hadn't gone, and that they shouldn't have taking my two Shock

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Oen1 · 08/08/2014 21:27

ADHDNoodles, I don't think I actually said never again. Maybe from now on.

Notagain - that walk was meant to be a little me time away from the kids. We usually do the walks together in the holidays, trying to get in at least an hour (did 3 and a half yesterday - the poor dog has barely moved off the settee since).

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Nanny0gg · 08/08/2014 23:16

They shouldn't have done it and that includes your DS who was equally involved.

However, knowing that he has form for causing trouble, I certainly wouldn't have left the three of them alone for &any^ length of time and certainly I would have returned straight away when told of the trouble. If he's that bad I would have been seriously worried as to what they were doing inside my house.

I think your active dislike of the child is making him seem worse than he perhaps needs to be.

Loletta · 08/08/2014 23:21

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Aeroflotgirl · 08/08/2014 23:26

Tbh this boy sounds like trouble I don't blame you for not wanting him in your home, you don't have to, they can play outside. I would have told him when he started to help himself to your things and going through your cupboards. Not acceptable, at 11 he is old enough to know.

Aeroflotgirl · 08/08/2014 23:27

Sounds like the product of poor parenting with little boundaries, he is nit your responsibility!

CafeAuLaitMerci · 08/08/2014 23:27

I would have told him long before now that he wasn't welcome in my home and probably would have already told him not to call for the boys. He's a handful, why tolerate it?

AgentZigzag · 08/08/2014 23:30

YADNBU, why would you want a 'cheeky, sly and sneaky' DC in your house? (unless they're your own and there's no escape Grin)

I can understand why his GM is trying to stand up for him, smoothing things over, if he's got problems elsewhere in his life she might give him a bit of leeway on his behaviour, but you don't have to!

Sounds like you've only described the tip of the iceberg of his visits in your OP, so this isn't a one off.

Cheeky76890 · 08/08/2014 23:36

I'm with you.

TrendStopper · 09/08/2014 00:14

Agent - he might have behaviour problems because his gran gives into him. Some people never can see their child/grandchilds bad behaviour.

I also think YANBU. If you don't want him in the house you don't have him in the house.

Just a question though. Why didn't you go back to the house when your ds told you what had happened?

Username12345 · 09/08/2014 00:44

YANBU!

Stick to your guns.

I hate permissive parenting where the child can do no wrong.

Oen1 · 09/08/2014 09:50

Thanks for the replies. I'm glad I'm not BU. I haven't wanted this boy around for a long time and this incident has drawn things to a close. I threatened him with not being allowed in the house a couple of months ago because of something he did (can't remember what) and now I've acted on it.

For those of you asking why I didn't go straight back, I explained that in a previous post, and also there's a field at the top of the road which I let the dog into to have a run around for a few minutes as this was going to be her only walk of the day (she won't do her business on the pavement or in our garden).

And my DS2 certainly had the brunt of my anger - all electronic devices are confiscated, no TV and no treats for the foreseeable.

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greenfolder · 09/08/2014 18:23

Perfect opportunity to get him out permanently well done for taking it.

CoffeeTea103 · 09/08/2014 18:31

Good for you for sticking to your guns. Some kids are bloody awful and more trouble than anything, best you let him know you were serious. Most importantly great that your let his gm know that you weren't going to feel bad or guilty about it. Sounds like he needs more discipline from adults.

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