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Aibu to wheel my bin to council and empty it out?

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pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 12:38

Blue bin wasn't collected yesterday as a member of the public dropped one small piece of paper in it so they wouldn't take it as only plastics, cans etc can be accepted from that bin.

Although angry I was polite when I phoned and asked if I emptied said contaminant would they do a re shedule.

I was basically told tough and to keep it until next collection and apparently keep watch on bin day for litter droppers as it's my responsibility.

So do I camp out front from 6am bin day keeping watch or would I be unreasonable to walk the bin down to the offices under the cover of darkness and dump the recycling they refuse to take?

I don't own a car and I pay £115 in council tax a month!

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Chwaraeteg · 08/08/2014 14:17

Unfortunately it would be illegal but you are definitely nbu.

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VodkaJelly · 08/08/2014 14:28

My local council is like this, you cannot have the lid open, not even a crack or they wont open it.

Where i live it is an L shaped carpark, the bin wagon wont come onto it so we have to wheel the bins down to the end of the carpark, i cannot see my bin from house, it would be against the laws of physics to see my bin where it has to be left! There is no way I would be able to police it and stop people putting things in it as I cannot see it.

I have ranted at the local councillor before. I live on a HA estate (it was council) and the bin men didnt empty a bin which had the lid open a bit, I understand this, those are the rules. But when I was walking the dog a bin on a private estate had the lid open all the way back with stuff sticking into the air, and the bin men bloody well emptied it. One massive rant at the local councillor asking why the "council" estate gets penalised for not sticking to the guidelines but the road round the corner where the councillor lives although it was not his house, gets emptied when the bin lid is wide open.

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DayLillie · 08/08/2014 14:42

We put recycling (plastic bottles, lids separate, cardboard, newspapers, tins, plastic supermarket trays etc) in a blue lidded bin. This gets emptied into the bin lorry and taken to the recycling plant, where they put it on a conveyer belt and sort it and chuck out the things that they can't use.

Non-recyclable and food waste goes in the grey bin

Garden, cardboard, egg boxes, shredded and already recycled paper and food waste go in the brown bin. (emptied alternate weeks to the grey bin)

glass goes in the bottle banks.

At the tip there is more...........

They are very reasonable about everything and no one gets fined.

I don't know why they all can't do this. It is run by Norse Commercial Services, not the council (but appears to have been set up by the council Hmm )

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks · 08/08/2014 14:55

Could be worse, the bin men didn't collect the grey bins (general household waste - nappies, left over food etc) because of the strike - fair enough we expected that.
What we didn't expect was having to wait a further 2 weeks for it to be collected. So we had 4 weeks worth of rubbish sat there during the hottest part of the summer so far. Worse still we had 9 over flowing bins right outside our garden gate for the whole 4 weeks as we are designated collection point!
Gross does not come close at all!
So whilst I sympathise with your issue, it could be much worse, at least plastics don't whiff that badly.

pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 15:22

Our bin collection can be anything from 6am right through to 2pm. So basically between them hrs they expect me to be responsible for any contaminants someone may put in the binShock

So obviously I'm expected not to have a life every bin daySad

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Skivvywoman · 08/08/2014 15:40

I worked for a council in the environmental department and if I had a £1 for every time I heard I'm coming to your office to dump my bin I'd be loaded Grin

Sonnet · 08/08/2014 15:48

Ha ha ha at underpaid and overworked council staff!!!! That has made my day Grin

pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 15:49

Grin thought of a better plan, going to bag some up and take a bag each day to the public bins at the local parks and such. Can't stop me doing that. They can shove the recycling where the sun doesn't shine from now on.

I have out a lot of effort into washing all the bottles out and separating everything so as soon as I can find 50 quid I will purchase another bin from an online place and just stick everything in it and wheel it out alongside my refuse one. Job done !

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pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 15:50

Overpaid Grin more like

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deakymom · 08/08/2014 15:51

we had an old lady who wasn't altogether there nevertheless she managed to sort her recycling into her boxes BUT she put them in the wrong colour boxes they had told her one was for paper one for plastic so she did just that they refused to empty it because they were in the wrong boxes we pointed out they were sorted just in the wrong colour box did it really matter? they said it did it really did we pointed out she couldnt read without her glasses they were in the shop being fixed and the person on the end of the phone told her what to do they still refused to collect they said one of her carers should have told her the correct way to recycle Angry so we sorted it out ourselves switched the contents over they didn't collect them the following week either phone again WTF is wrong now she hadn't put them in the correct "spot"....................there was much swearing going on that day Grin we now have green wheelie bins we throw it all in and someone else sorts it out

dietstartsmonday · 08/08/2014 15:52

my bin men refused to empty my rubbish bin for 3 collections. so six weeks as it was too heavy.
I am 5 foot and managed to pull it from garden to roadside. so wtf was up with them

saadia · 08/08/2014 15:55

OP our blue bin wasn't collected at all for no reason, contents were fine. The bin men usually leave a note if there is something that shouldn't be there, and then they report it. But there was no note and when I initially called, no report.

When I called again or the umpteenth time to arrange a recollection, someone had fabricated a report about it being left in the wrong place. I argued about it but was told to take the contents to are recycling letter.

So then I wrote an angry letter to the complaints officer and thankfully it was collected the next day. I did feel ridiculous getting so worked up about a bin but it was not my mistake and they have a procedure for collecting missed bins which they ha not followed.

saadia · 08/08/2014 15:56

Recycling centre

WhereDoAllTheCalculatorsGo · 08/08/2014 16:18

Refusing to recycle isn't about saying 'fuck off' to your local council though is it? Let's face it, it really isn't going to be noticed or cared about. What you're saying is 'fuck off' to the planet because you're a bit peeved about having to follow a rule.
We can't take a 'maybe' approach to waste management, there has to be rules.

You can't say to the bin men 'empty it if it has only 2 pieces of contamination, leave it if it has 3' they're not paid for their common sense, they're just there to do as they're told.

ObfusKate · 08/08/2014 16:26

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pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 17:37

It's not really about saying fuck off to the council, it's about that I can't be arsed anymore.

Our area on the whole is a shambles, I fail to see what the council do except line the back pockets of their hierarchy.

I also don't want to incur a fine so I have decided I won't be recycling anymore if one little piece of paper that belongs to me is going to cause them such trouble that 6 bin men have to take the trouble to put one sticker on the bin.

When me or my partner learns to drive I will gladly recycle it myself but for now I can't possibly cart the entire bin on foot to a recycling centre so to hell with itAngry

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pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 17:40

*doesn't

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ShakeYourTailFeathers · 08/08/2014 17:55

This all sounds a bit bonkers Shock.

where I live (not in UK) we have a blue wheelie bin for ALL recyclables, and a black bin for everything else.

Every Friday we put both bins out in road in front of house. Must be at least a foot apart from each other.

Man in truck (on his own) comes by. Big automated arm comes out and picks up black bin, tips it in, puts bin down, moves on.

Hour or two later another lone man in a truck comes by, repeat for the blue one.

People at recycling depot sort all recyclables. Rest goes to landfill.

Council charge us $8 a month I think? Regardless of whether you choose to use your blue bin or not. No fines if you don't.

pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 18:13

Sounds better than our system shake!

We have variations of different systems in the uk.

Mine normally goes like this:

Black bin, collected fortnightly (smells rank in the summer)Envy

Brown food bin collected weekly

Blue bin for plastics, cans, glass and tins/ Red bag for paper and cardboard taken once a fortnight

But there are strict rules on what plastic can be put in blue binShock

In total we have four bins increasing to 5 next yearShock

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pumpkinsweetie · 08/08/2014 18:16

A year ago shake our system was almost same as yours.
We originally had one waste and one recycling bin but our barmy council introduced us to this fandango!

The red paper bag is utter shite and no good for a large family like mine.
It's small and open to the elements so quite often the paper gets wet and snails like to live in it

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ShakeYourTailFeathers · 08/08/2014 18:17

FIVE? Yikes. Where do you keep them all?

Here they are threatening green bins for kitchen and garden waste - i think they are trialling them.

Not sure how that will work in summer (stinky) and winter (frozen solid)