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To not sue this museum for compensation?

66 replies

Jollyphonics · 08/08/2014 09:02

Yesterday we were at an outdoor museum. This museum is free to enter. It has some government funding, and makes money with a gift shop, mini cinema, couple of little rides, but is also clearly quite dependent on donations too (lots of boxes asking for donations, envelopes for gift-aiding etc).

We were in a quiet corner of a field - part of the museum grounds but no one else there and there probably rarely is.

DS1 (age 9) stepped on a manhole cover, which looked OK but obviously wasn't. It flipped over and he slipped in, getting the whole of one leg and both his hands covered in poo. It was totally vile, as you can imagine.

The staff were, I think, volunteers. They we very sympathetic and as helpful as they could be, but there wasn't much in the way of facilities to use. We'd come a long way and had only just arrived, so didn't want to just go home, and anyway DS had to get cleaned up before getting in the car! So, we were given gloves, a pile of paper towels, use of the disabled toilets, and the staff looked after DS2 while I did my best with DS1. I washed his clothes and the staff dried them under their hand dryer. After an hour or so DS was clean, dressed in clean dried clothes, and we finally started our day. The boys were each given a free toy (an activity being run that would have cost £3 each). DS1 wasn't traumatised by it, and actually didn't cry even when covered in poo.

I would say that it was very unpleasant, but I put it down to "one of those things". (Of course I may feel differently in 2 days time when we've got D&V!)

The staff took it seriously, lots of paperwork being done, clearly a significant incident, area fenced off etc.

I planned to just forget all about it, but my Mum is livid, saying I should sue for compensation, it could have been so much worse and so on. She's right, it could have been worse - if both legs had gone in I have no idea how deep he'd have sunk! yuk! But I just want to put it behind us.

AIBU? WWYD?

OP posts:
KnackeredMuchly · 08/08/2014 09:41

I certainly wouldnt want compensation but I would follow it up amd make sure they had checked and secured all manholes

Stampysladygarden · 08/08/2014 09:49

That is absolutely not 'one of those things'. It's a really serious health and safety issue.

Someone there does need a kick up the arse about it. Not sueing and not everyone will be a volunteer.

TwinkleDust · 08/08/2014 09:50

The owner of the land would be liable. But you are missing the key point.

Not 'compensation', but make a simple request to know what steps they are taking to prevent it happening again. If it was a manhole cover to a septic tank, you realise the outcome could have been far worse than shitty clothes, right? Not just potential disease hazard, but fatalities have occurred in similar contexts.

An incident has highlighted the risk, so think of it as an alert to a danger that needs addressing.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 08/08/2014 09:56

Shit happens. I think you're right to ignore your mother's idea about compensation. You don't generally get compensated for hypothetical results that didn't actually happen.

I think it might be worth following up to gain reassurance that it won't happen again. Ultimately though it's not your job to police them, so I don't think you're morally obliged to do so as they're already aware of the issue.

bustraintram · 08/08/2014 10:02

Gertie, before you pick up other posters on their grammer, check you are correct! Name change said "your mums an idiot" which is correct (technically needs an apostrophe eg mum's but we know what was meant). You OTOH are wrong, you're is short for you are. Name change was talking about the OP's mum. Sorry to derail, but when people are fussy about grammer they really need to get it right

RiverTam · 08/08/2014 10:11

Shit happens.

aaaahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!! Sorry, that really made me laugh, I don't know if you did it on purpose.

I think the museum have taken it very seriously. Obviously you could follow it up with them to ensure they do actually make the manhole cover safe.

donnie · 08/08/2014 10:11

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PorkPieandPickle · 08/08/2014 10:40

I would potentially report to environmental health for them to follow up as a health and safety issue at the premises and ensure its been resolved.

Just to point out tho, it's not the councils responsibility to maintain sewers and drains on private land (unless the museum is owned by the council of course!)

Floggingmolly · 08/08/2014 10:46

So your mum is advocating sueing the RAF; simply on the grounds that they can afford it? Hmm.
No wonder we all pay so much for insurance these days, with so many people with that mentality...

AllHailTheBigPurpleOne · 08/08/2014 10:46

I wouldn't sue, there was no real harm done.
But I would report, report, report. It could have been very dangerous.
I'm glad the staff took it seriously and sounds as though the risk will be dealt with.

OrangeMochaFrappucino · 08/08/2014 10:58

Christ, that's terrifying. I would definitely want to know what was being done to ensure that never happens again. The outcome could have been horrific.

ouryve · 08/08/2014 11:02

YANBU, but you need to put pressure on to have it fixed.

LIZS · 08/08/2014 11:04

I'd write thanking them for their assistance on the day and to confirm that the incident had been logged and the hazard put right.

MissDuke · 08/08/2014 11:05

The people complaining about other people's grammar are being unreasonable.

Op, you though, are not. I do agree though that it would be a good idea to ensure that the council are notified. It is imperative that this does not happen again, what an awful thing to happen. Well done you and your lo for being so calm and reasonable about it all.

dexter73 · 08/08/2014 11:11

I'm still confused as to what your mum thinks you could sue for?

YouSayWhaaat · 08/08/2014 11:12

Gertie - if 'you're' going to be an annoying pedant, then make sure 'you're' correct.

Namechange had it correct the first time, both grammatically and contextually. It is 'your' comment that is incorrect.

EarthWindFire · 08/08/2014 11:13

Suing because 'they can afford it' Shock seriously!?

Julius02 · 08/08/2014 11:20

The money for the RAF comes from government, ie it's taxpayers money, from people like me. Your mum's attitude is disgraceful, sorry.

GertieFinkle · 10/08/2014 09:10

No, I'm not a twat, I thought namechange was unnecessarily rude about OP's mum - thread was not about her mum and she didn't ask for an opinion on whether her mum was an idiot or not. My pointing out a mistake was perfectly accurate thanks, there was a missing apostrophe in 'mums'. I didn't mention your/you're as I am perfectly aware of how they are used and 'your' was correctly used.

ShadowStar · 10/08/2014 09:28

Surely you'd need to prove injury or loss of earnings to be able to use?

YANBU to not use.

I would, however, chase this up. Letters etc to the museum asking how they're going to safeguard against this happening again (as pp have pointed out, this type of accident can have severe or even fatal consequences), letters to council / environmental health / health and safety executive to try and make sure it's also checked / followed up officially by an outside third party.

ShadowStar · 10/08/2014 09:29

to not sue, even.....

SuperScrimper · 10/08/2014 09:29

Seriously, the RAF 'can afford' it?! I really hope I never meet your Mum. Do you know about the redundancies, the state of RAF accommodation and all the other cutbacks going on right now?

But hey, if you can screw some money out them why not?

Branleuse · 10/08/2014 09:32

can you imagime if someone immunocompromised fell in? jeez.

i wouldnt sue but id kick up a fuss

tiredandsadmum · 10/08/2014 09:40

I like Lilyandginger letter. Thanks the volunteer staff who did their best but does ensure that the maintenance issue is dealt with.

Suing - no. Bad idea.

Hope DS and you all had a good day.

Sicaq · 10/08/2014 09:46

Agree with many PPs: suing for personal injury is probably not the right course, but absolutely report this to environmental health. Better they are closed temporarily than something much more serious happens next time. This is actually a major lapse of care on the museum's part. If your son had been immunocompromised then this could have made him seriously I'll.