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Wanting a third child but feeling let down....am I being selfish?

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Bubbly77 · 04/08/2014 08:23

Hi, I'm new to this group and I'm hoping some of you can offer me some support/words of advice?

I currently have two sons, aged 10 and 4 yrs. Since my youngest was 2, I've always yearned for a third child. Whilst, initially, I wanted to try for a girl, I know that I would be very happy whatever gender I had.

For 2 years, my hubby and I have had loft tidying sessions and each time I have mentioned about having a third, i.e. are we keeping the baby bits (cot, baby bath, toys etc), he always says never say never and we don't need to get rid of them. This in turn, got my hopes up for a third.

However, each time I ask about a third, he always says "Never say never but I'm not ready yet". BUT time is not on our side, I'm just about to turn 37 and he is 41 and really don't want to wait any longer for a third.

A month or so ago, he was put on antidepressants for feeling a bit low and anxious and whilst I appreciate this, I get down at times too and just keep going on (although know people cope differently to depression etc). I then read up on the internet that the pills he has been prescribed could cause birth defects (should we conceive). He worried and came off them (unknown to me until he told me a couple of days later). We both agreed that I should talk to the Drs to seek advice and I did, so he restarted the pills (they are safe after all). He now seems much happier than before.

So, a couple of nights ago, I approached the subject again. We had also discussed moving house and getting a dog. Originally he was keen on moving (getting a bigger mortgage before we get too old) yet the other night said he didn't really want to move but then last night said he did?! He even said, the other night, that I could get a dog for me and the boys but didn't want nothing to do with it (a few weeks ago he said he'd prefer a baby to a dog). I don't want a dog right now, as have two senior cats which wouldn't be fair on them.

Then, he said he didn't want another baby!!! I feel confused and so upset. Why, for two years has he told me to keep the baby bits in the loft, why did he say "never say never", why did he come off the tablets and get me to speak to the Dr until he knew it was safe to go back on them? He said he's happy with his two boys and hates to see me so upset and he said that he usually gives in. I explained I don't want to push him in a corner and want him to want these things to.

We've been in our house for 6 years and only decorated that boys rooms and done the garden (but this house was his sisters and at the time was a cheap buy but not an ideal house for us). I had a few months off last year, in between jobs, but I am now working part-time in a permanent role, with the NHS. My youngest starts school in Sept, so both my boys will be at school. My hubby earns £32k per year, so I don't think money would be an issue. My parents help out with childcare.

Sorry to ramble, but I feel so upset and don't know how to cope without another child. We agreed I'd go back to work after a few months to help out financially, which I have done. He worries what other people will say if we have another. My eldest was diagnosed with Executive Functioning Syndrome (similar to Aspergers) so his behaviour can be trying at times. My 4 year old wakes up most nights still. He says I've got enough to deal with, especially with sleep deprivation, without the need for another. BUT time is not on my side and somehow I think I'll feel resentment in years to come. I feel trapped and that I'm having to ask his permission when I want things. That said, I want him to want another child, not force him into it.

Support and advice greatly appreciated!!!

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Bubbly77 · 04/08/2014 08:38

Just to add, a lot of people I know are having more children/falling pregnant (which is not why I want another but makes the issue a lot harder to deal with). Two of my closest friends last year had babies and when we're with them hubby makes a real fuss over the babies...so why would he do this?

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MsBadcrumble · 04/08/2014 08:40

Yanbu for feeling disappointed. It sounds like a lack of communication is the problem with too much hinting at things eg keeping baby bits and not enough proper discussion, for something so important. Perhaps he didn't feel able to be honest about his feelings because he knew how much you wanted it.

Yabu for suggesting he should have 'got on with' his depression. Taking medication isn't a weakness and it sounds like his low spell was an inconvenience for you, rather than a cause for true concern.

MsBadcrumble · 04/08/2014 08:42

Also making a fuss over others babies does not mean he wants one of his own.

You have two lovely children, maybe he feels he is through the baby stage. I know its hard to see others falling pregnant... I do it knowing I can never carry any children at all.

ChasedByBees · 04/08/2014 08:45

I can see why you are upset, but having children is something both potential parents need to want wholeheartedly. Either of them can veto - it's not about you needing his permission, it's about him not wanting to be a parent which is a huge thing.

It sounds like he was unsure but has now made up his mind. It is difficult but I think you'll have to work together to accept your family as it is.

ChasedByBees · 04/08/2014 08:46

(Not wanting to be a parent again to a baby, I meant)

Bubbly77 · 04/08/2014 08:58

Thanks for your comments.

I understand depression is an illness and I was the one who convinced him to go to the Drs for help. I too, wonder if I'm suffering with the same?

Maybe it is not the best time to be considering another child and I would not want to have another child knowing he never really wanted another. I do feel lonely at times. He does a lot of private work (which I truly appreciate for extra cash....although don't always see it - lol!). I am running the house.....housework, grocery shopping, washing, caring for kids, cooking and part-time working and also up at least 2 -4 times a night with my 4.5 year old (which I'm trying to address). I always put the boys to bed and get them up and dressed in the morning. He works full-time, comes home and has tea, falls asleep on the sofa, then watches TV or goes on the internet. He moans at weekends that he hates the house but never makes the effort to improve it. I do feel like I'm running the show alone at times but know that his behaviour is linked to depression, just hope we can both come out the other side . I just can't help my longing........

On the plus side we're going away for the weekend, so going to enjoy that without thinking/talking about the 'baby' issue.

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MsBadcrumble · 04/08/2014 09:09

It does sound hard. Do you think maybe you feel 'stuck in a rut' OP and are looking for something that will change the dynamic?

Bubbly77 · 04/08/2014 09:21

Yes. I feel we have 'no plans' and I am organised and like to have something to look forward to. He's more last minute and as at work so much seems to be too tired and not wanting to discuss. Maybe I'll have to start the gym?! x

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headoverheels · 04/08/2014 09:25

I think maybe he was never that keen on a third baby but didn't want to upset you by saying that, so he used the suitably vague 'never say never'. Is he a bit of a people pleaser?

Bubbly77 · 04/08/2014 09:37

Yes, he is. He's just texted me to say if it means that much to me we can have another. But now I feel guilty.........I want him to want it too. xx

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pinkdelight · 04/08/2014 09:43

I'm not sure he's been stringing you along intentionally. Maybe he genuinely didn't know and thought he'd be up for it if things got better, but by the sounds of it things have got harder. If your 4yo was sleeping through, if DH hadn't got depression, if your eldest hadn't got EFS - there are several key factors that have been out of both your control that will contribute to his feeling that he just can't cope with a baby, or indeed a whole other person to take care of for the next 18+ years. You will feel this is unfair, but I think you also know deep down that it is fair enough for him to say no and better that he is honest with you rather than string you along now that he's sure - or be swayed by your longing and risk his mental health and perhaps even your family breaking down.

pinkdelight · 04/08/2014 09:46

Gosh, cross-posted with you there, OP. I think a decision by text may not be conclusive. You definitely need to talk this over in depth and make sure both of you are certain. (Hope that doesn't sound patronising, just wary of people managing major relationship decisions by text).

LastingLight · 04/08/2014 09:58

It sounds as if he doesn't do much parenting of the two dc's you already have so are you up for being a virtual single parent to a third? Was it always like this, or just since he became depressed? It doesn't sound as if his depression is under control yet. An inability to think straight and make decisions can be symptoms.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 04/08/2014 10:15

Another baby sounds like potentially a straw to break the camel's back. You say you don't know how you'll cope with not having another child, back in the real world you might just have to, in the way that people often have to cope with not getting what they want. Better for you to cope with not having another baby you want than for him to cope with a baby he doesn't. He sounds like he's feeling under pressure.

dottytablecloth · 04/08/2014 10:21

Pretty obvious point but you need to make sure he really wants another child and isn't just agreeing to it because you are guilt tripping him.

It's no worse to not have a third child than to have a third when one parent doesn't really want it.

You do sound like you have a lot to deal with already.

Why do you think you want a third so much?

manchestermummy · 04/08/2014 11:59

Baby 3 comes up in our household often. We both want it. However, we just cannot afford it. When DD2 starts school next Sept, we'll be able to do things to the house that we haven't been able to do as we've been paying more than our mortgage every month in childcare for the past six years. On a practical level, I want a new kitchen more than another baby really...

But I struggle with others around me having babies. Could it be an age thing? I'm 35 and feel like it's now or never, which is insane I know.

The times when I desparately want another? When I remember being pregnant (even feeling!), giving birth, that new person landing on my tummy, the loveliness of a baby turning into a toddler. But then there are times I don't, and the times I don't are when we've had a lovely day with the two of them, even just being at home, and the family dynamic has felt 'right'. Then, I cannot imagine having to deal with another child in the mix. It's funny.

Marylou62 · 04/08/2014 12:05

Could have written your post OP...DH definitely didn't want no 3...but no3 is now 17 and the apple of his fathers eye. Our relationship and child rearing sounds similar to you...Tho I never felt like a single parent...he went to work full time...I did nearly all the childcare and household chores as well as a part time job...I did ask him who would be saddest...me if we didnt have no3 or him if we did...that seemed to make him agree..(once I was pregnant...and was a terrible pregnancy btw...we never looked back...he has NEVER said any thing, even during BIG rows, about DC3)....he was and is a brill Dad. It was hard as I was physically and mentally unwell for a few years after the birth and I couldn't admit it as I had wanted another so much...but life is good ...I understand that longing so much..it was all I could think about if I'm honest...I'd definitely get your 4 yr old sleeping through the night tho..

Bubbly77 · 04/08/2014 12:40

Thanks for all your thoughts....it definitely helps to talk.

The reason I want a third is because I don't feel like I'm ready to finish the 'child' thing yet. I love children and babies and just have the longing for another. I don't get on well with my sister (just us 2), so maybe when I'm older I worry about being alone. I love my two boys, dearly, although admittedly they can be hard work. Maybe, it's a sign of loneliness and me needing company. As my youngest starts school in September and my eldest will be in his last year at primary, maybe I don't feel I have a purpose in life. As my hubby works so much, I do feel lonely at times. I have good friends who regularly invite me out but feel so tired that I sometimes pull out of meet ups. I have wondered if hubby working is a way of escapism from the family responsibilities but he has denied this, saying he's working as busy for his company and doing private jobs (which is true). I feel we are dwindling and there are no real plans, which are an organised person, I find difficult to deal with.

I love my hubby so much and don't want to force him into a decision. I'm just finding the fact he never said no before (said maybe) and now 'no' - until the text this morning, very hard to deal with.....very hurt but I can understand his side of things too.

x

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