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to ask for tips in dealing with guilt trips etc from in-laws?

16 replies

XmasMenace · 01/08/2014 19:54

Have NC'ed to avoid being outed. We're going to see DH's family in 3 weeks and I won't write it all here to avoid a mammoth post but we have a lot of back history with them trying to control DH with guilt trips etc and it's taken DH a long time to work through the FOG but he's getting there slowly. Reaching the stage now where we can deal with them day in day out (as we live quite a way away) and neither of us want to cut them off as they can be very nice people generally and DH is clear on siding with me/our family so we hope to be able to work through it over time.

Thing is we moved away from them (for other reasons, not them) 2 years ago, they took it badly at the time and still don't seem to want to deal with it. When we see them we get guilt trips about being so far away, but they're veiled enough that there's nothing to actually challenge, it's just little comments that have a 'drip drip' effect. DH, naturally, feels the brunt of it and would love (well we both would) to have ideas of calm and polite but firm comments to shut the remarks down without having to blow it up into a big thing (MIL hates being 'challenged' and will spoil for a fight then apologise later whereas if it's all 'softly softly' she'll back off before it happens).

So what do you say when you get subtle digs about things like;
'we didn't think you'd recognise dniece/she'd recognise you' (ie, you should live round the corner)
'we don't know what to do about xmas, it's so hard not having all the family around' (ie, you should spend every xmas with us even though it's impossible with families far apart)
'that's why it's so good living in X place' (this is from SIL, to infer where we live is hell on earth - granted that one phrase doesn't imply that by itself but there's usually hours of comments like this)

Neither of us are good at being assertive in the moment (better after reflecting and getting back to them) - what would you reply in the moment to get them to stop?

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TheFirstOfHerName · 01/08/2014 20:00

"Next time someone asks me to explain what 'passive aggressive' means, at least I'll have plenty of examples to use."

TheFirstOfHerName · 01/08/2014 20:01

"That won't be a problem any more, because we've decided to move back to be closer to you... NOT!"

TheFirstOfHerName · 01/08/2014 20:04

'we don't know what to do about xmas, it's so hard not having all the family around'

"Oh, that's a shame. We love spending Christmas with just the three* of us and have never been happier."
*or however many you are

Ohhelpohnoitsa · 01/08/2014 20:14

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foslady · 01/08/2014 20:27

YY ohhelpohnoitsa - that's my trick too!

Castlemilk · 01/08/2014 21:18

SIL: 'That's why it's so good living in X place'

You: 'Yes, you know, you are right. You keep saying it, and it's really making us think... we loved 'town we are currently in' when we moved there, but after all your comments, we've seen it with new eyes. Do you know, there have been a good few jobs advertised in Western Australia recently, it's very much like 'SIL hometown' actually and we're seriously thinking of going. All you've said has really made us think that maybe we should move on...' :)

Iconfuseus · 01/08/2014 22:26

I would just pretend that you don't understand that they are digging at you and not offer a response.

I also like Ohhelpohnoitsa's suggestion.

AgentZigzag · 01/08/2014 22:47

I've found answering without saying much is a good way to go if you're not up for WWIII kicking off.

Just answer the digs with only half your attention (because they're not important), maybe even nod along about how terrible these things are and refuse to take the bait that they actually mean you.

That would annoy them more than your justifications of yourself/your decisions, (which will never be enough, and WTF should you anyway!) and avoids any confrontation.

If they've got anything to say they're going to have to spell it out, otherwise just nod/smile/ignore, they have no power or authority over you as adults, what are they going to do if you're not listening??

Andro · 01/08/2014 22:49

'we didn't think you'd recognise dniece/she'd recognise you' (ie, you should live round the corner)

That would never happen, she's to adorable to forget/We see each other often enough for that not be a problem

'we don't know what to do about xmas, it's so hard not having all the family around' (ie, you should spend every xmas with us even though it's impossible with families far apart)

Do you know what your Christmas plans are? Be 'helpful' and say eg. 'I know what you mean, but this year we've been invited to/decided to stay home/were hoping to visit on etc.

'that's why it's so good living in X place' (this is from SIL, to infer where we live is hell on earth - granted that one phrase doesn't imply that by itself but there's usually hours of comments like this)

Of course, but there are so many lovely places to live and Y place (where you currently live) has

XmasMenace · 02/08/2014 14:43

Thanks for all the replies, love the ideas, have shown DH the thread too and we both feel a little more 'prepared' for visiting now. Think the positive/pollyanna/glossing over approach will be ideal, before we've just tried to ignore/stay silent and it seems to be an invite to them to carry on. If we do the pollyanna act it'll reassure them in the times when these comments come from genuine concern/insecurity and wind them up no end when it's just from spoiling for a fight, so win win.

So tempted by the Western Australia idea though, MIL in particular would actually have kittens Grin

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amothersplaceisinthewrong · 02/08/2014 14:47

A still tongue in a wise head - ignore them all and say nothing. But LOVE Castlemilks suggestion.....

justmyview · 02/08/2014 14:57

Another vote for Pollyanna approach - agree with their comment (sort of) and then change the subject

'we didn't think you'd recognise dniece/she'd recognise you' (ie, you should live round the corner)

Yes, I wondered if she'd recognize us. I'm so glad she did / I didn't mind that she didn't recognize us straight away, but isn't it nice that she looks so happy and relaxed now? Do you think she remembers that time we all went to ...... ? Didn't we have fun that day?

'we don't know what to do about xmas, it's so hard not having all the family around' (ie, you should spend every xmas with us even though it's impossible with families far apart)

Yes it would be lovely to all meet at Christmas, wouldn't it? I wonder how many people do that nowadays. Do your neighbours still meet up with their daughter every year? How lovely for them. That's nice when it works out

'that's why it's so good living in X place' (this is from SIL, to infer where we live is hell on earth - granted that one phrase doesn't imply that by itself but there's usually hours of comments like this)

Yes it's lovely here. It obviously suits you to live by the sea. Oh that reminds me, we had a lovely day at the beach last weekend. I must tell you about it later tonight

FunkyBoldRibena · 02/08/2014 14:59

'we didn't think you'd recognise dniece/she'd recognise you' (ie, you should live round the corner)
Aah luckily mum she has /I have your eyes Wink
That's my niece - OMG! You've grown so much in just x months. Wow. You must come and live with us when you go to uni.

'we don't know what to do about xmas, it's so hard not having all the family around' (ie, you should spend every xmas with us even though it's impossible with families far apart)
Crikey - its August! Enjoy the summer first eh?
Crikey - it's September, Enjoy the Autumn before making any plans
Aah - we know how you feel. We love our house at Christmas, all warm and cosy - shame Christmas is in the winter, the worst time to travel, eh?

'that's why it's so good living in X place' (this is from SIL, to infer where we live is hell on earth - granted that one phrase doesn't imply that by itself but there's usually hours of comments like this)
Is it? We love this about our town; different strokes for different folks, eh?
Really, we prefer x.

deakymom · 02/08/2014 23:10

be warned though we moved away and moved back to be closer to our family since we moved back its like we have leprosy we have fallen out with one family member totally and the others are facebook grandparents who "like" our pictures and only ever ring my mobile because there son (my dh) changed his and we dont know his number Hmm the phone call is usually in response to a message sent of his phone

i will never move to be closer to family again they just think now we are closer we should make all the effort and whine when we make none sorry but you have ignored your longed for biological grandchildren in favor of your step grandchildren for too long we noticed and decided we would make the exact same effort you do hence standoff!

change the subject to something innocuous and random did you see eastenders/home and away last week etc

Pugaboo · 02/08/2014 23:29

Oh yes the Pollyanna approach punctuated with innocent sounding passive aggressive remarks - my speciality!

90% of what my MIL says is pointed/manipulative.

Pugaboo · 02/08/2014 23:30

I mean 90% of comments along those lines! Not 90% of everything!

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