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AIBU?

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who is BU, my mom or my dad?

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CheerfulYank · 01/08/2014 19:53

Here's the story.

My parents are 54. (Well, my mom is. My dad will be in September but early on began saying he was whatever age my mom was after her birthday in March because she didn't like to feel "older" :o)

They got married at 18 and have two DC, my twat of an older brother, and me.

We live in Minnesota in the US. My paternal grandmother is originally from here, but moved to a different state when she was 20, met my grandfather, had my dad and his siblings. She brought my dad and his siblings to Minnesota on holidays when they were children and my dad always loved it, the forests and lakes etc.

He grew up and married my mother, who had always lived in this other state, as did all her family. We lived there until I was 8, when my Dad convinced my mother to move us all to Minnesota as he had always wanted. (Not just Minnesota, but a very specific small town in Minnesota that he loved.)

My mother...hated it. She is much more social than Dad and missed her family, who now lived a thousand miles away. She told him she would give it a decade as my brother and I would both be out of school by then. That was 24 years ago.

They bought a century old log house on 11 acres next to a river and worked on making it their dream home. I am biased of course as I grew up there, but it is gorgeous now. :) They did all the work themselves and turned it from a place with no running water or electricity into a house that an editor offered to feature in a magazine.

My dad loves it. It is all he's ever wanted and he feels settled there. He is very happy with his wood stove and his books in the winter, and his fishing boat in the summer. He doesn't like people (well, individually he does, but not crowds) or traffic. He has good friends in the small town as well.

My mother doesn't love it (especially the six months of snow) but she does like the house and land, and has some good friends too.

The only fly in the ointment is...me. I now live five hour's drive away with DH and our two DC.

My brother isn't likely to have children (at least not on purpose) so wherever I live is where my parents' only GC will be.

My mother hates living so far away. She and my dad do see the DC every month or so. They come to us more often than we go to them (DH can't often get away and I don't drive) and DD is 14 months and still has a hard time on long car journeys. I think she's been to theirs about 4 times...maybe three?

Anyway, this contact is enough for my father and for me too, but it is not for my mother. She wants to be able to be really involved with my DC, to be able to attend more school things, have them over on a whim, etc. That is the way things are with my PIL, who live about 15 minutes away.

Added to which, my mom would just like to leave the small town and have more to do in general. She's, again, much more social than my father in terms of wanting to go to different restaurants and shops and the cinema and all of that, none of which are really available close to them.

Both of them can work anywhere. My mom runs an Etsy shop where she sells vintage stuff and architectural salvages and things like that. My dad...well, it's hard to explain what he does but he has his own workshop and could work out of any large shed or garage.

I have told them I'm going to learn to drive and will bring the DC to see them more, but it's hard as DS is in school. I did take them for a week this summer and then another long weekend, but with DS's activities it's hard. When we go we stay in a cabin belonging to my dad's side of the family. If they moved, the cabin would still be an option for my dad...he could go stay there and fish with his friends, etc.

So. My mom wants to move closer to me and the DC, and just to be closer to a city and more things to do while she's young enough to enjoy them. My dad wants to stay right where he is, in the home he's worked so hard on, in the town he's always wanted to live in.

It's so hard because there's really no compromise. One will get his/her way and the other won't.

Sorry for the novel! Also in sort of feel that neither of them is BU as such, but it's on my mind and I'm bored so...in your view, who is BU? :)

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CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 15:44

No, they can't really Maryz

Diddl I am happy with the contact but would be okay with more. We get along well and the DC (especially DS) love them.

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CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 15:50

I don't know Madam! She is a funny, fierce little thing. I'm a little nervous to when she starts talking :o

They can't really afford two homes, unless they sold theirs and bought two smaller. But my dad's work requires an outbuilding and here's is hard to do without one. (she has a small studio attached to my dad's shop now)

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CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 15:51

*for
*hers

Hmm
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Maryz · 02/08/2014 16:05

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diddl · 02/08/2014 16:08

How often would your dad be able to stay in the family cabin & have something close to what he has now?

Perhaps your mum needs to look at where she'd like to move to & if realistically both businesses could also work from there?

Also, would she really do what she wants to in terms of city life given the opportunity?

How far are they from a city atm?

CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 16:15

They are about two hour's drive from a city with the kind of things to do that my mother likes to do.

My dad's work is sometimes sporadic so he could stay at the cabin quite a bit, probably.

I don't know if she could rent the studio or not...they live in a very small town and I don't know who would be interested. It's not good for painting and things like that...not a lot of light.

That's the hard thing about where we are. There aren't a lot of nice apartments unless you are in the City, in which case they are outrageously expensive, especially with two large dogs.

She has looked at a town about a half hour from me. There were quite a few houses for sale with land and outbuildings.

They have no savings and their work is, as I said, sporadic. So in a way I would really like to see them sell and buy something much cheaper so they can have the profits from the sale in the bank.

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wafflyversatile · 02/08/2014 16:19

Well regardless of what they said 20 years ago your mum can't force him to move now. I can understand your dad not wanting to give up such a wonderful house after so much love and work has gone into but understand your mum's side too. Of course if came to it and they split up over this he'd maybe lose the house, if not the country living, anyway...

Could your mum come on her own for more week long visits? then she still has the house she has worked on and grown to love and also more time with her DC and GC. Would you be happy with her being there (in your basement?) for say a week every two months? Would your DP?

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CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 19:28

Waffly I'm okay with her staying. Pre-DC I'd have said no way. She is a very busy, "get things done" sort of person. She is they type to be up at the crack of dawn painting a room. I am the type who needs lots of strong coffee to speak coherently before 10 a.m. :o And she can be pushy.

But since I had DS 7 years ago I've gotten very good at using certain phrases ("this isn't about you", "yes, but you were free to do what you wanted with your DC and now we're free to do the same", etc.) that make her back down immediately.

She loves nothing more than house projects (hence the gorgeous home) and hanging out with the DC, so I think she'd be really helpful in a lot of ways.

It could be nice. We're a few hours from the biggest City in our state which is really nice as theater and shops and restaurants go, and my own DH doesn't like to go often. So it could work out...she could get lots of GC time and we could have a really fun day out in the city together.

She said she is going to ask my dad which would be easiest...selling the house, or helping convert my basement or garage to accommodate guests. :)

I don't think it will cost too much. My dad can build or fix almost anything.

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Maryz · 02/08/2014 19:38

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CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 20:18

:o there is a door.

I think she and my dad would both like time apart every now and then! They've been a couple since they were 16, that's a long time. :) He could stay at home and fish and rent DVDs of the "stupid" comedies my mom hates...

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CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 20:25

Not to mention I'd quite like the basement redone so we can have a play/family room and I can get the piles of toys out of my living room. :)

I hope it all works out!

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Cocolepew · 02/08/2014 20:38

I will go and live with your dad, I'd pay rent and your mum could then afford to stay with you. A couple of times a year will be ideal.

It sounds lovely Envy.

pandarific · 02/08/2014 21:42

Could they do half a year in each? Or come for every winter, or summer, and rent out the house?

CheerfulYank · 02/08/2014 22:12

He is quite good company Cocole. And, there's a sauna! He's not hospitable but he will gesture roughly at the coffee pot if there's some left in it. :o

Pandarific I'm not sure. Because they have no savings they will need to work for some time to come, and while he can work from anywhere geographically, he does need a large shop. Ooh, there's actually a wiki page for what he does! He's a pattern maker

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