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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or are they? Cause I got no idea anymore.

37 replies

CompletelyStumped · 25/07/2014 11:14

Ok NC for this, kind of sensitive topic and the amount I post it would definitely out me.

A bit of background info here - me and dc's father have been split for a few years, he was abusive, an alcoholic, on drugs and refused to work. Things got that bad that he doesn't actually know one of his children (split while pregnant and he's had no contact with them or me since.)

Dc are still toddlers, don't know their father and have never had a desire to know their father. But the past two weeks he has gotten in contact with me again. I received an email from him saying how he is clean of alcohol and drugs, he's going to counselling to deal with his anger and he's now working. He said how sorry he was for everything he had put me through, how he had no idea how to make it right but he hoped I had found some peace and happiness away from him. He said he knew it was too late for us to fix things but he needed to know if it was too late for him to have a relationship with his children.

And my first reaction was "you b***d, you put me through hell, put me in hospital, drank and smoked away their first years and you want to know them now?!? When we're finally happy and settled?!?" I might have cried a bit, might have wanted to chuck the computer out the window, might have swore blind that he'd never see his children so long as I lived. None of that I said to him though. Once I calmed down I began to think about it.

And finally I decided that if he really had changed, if he could prove he was able to be a decent dad and a decent human then who am I to say no? The children deserve a chance to know their father no matter what he had done in the past.

Eventually I emailed him back saying yes, but he had to take it slow. He's seemed keen, we've exchanged a couple of phone calls and he spoke with the children, he's being patient and understanding that I am not ready for the children to meet him yet, that I won't be ready for him to spend alone time with them for a while, that I need to trust him myself before I trust the children with him.

Except my family and friends (who know what he was like) are telling me I'm crazy, that I must have every screw loose to even consider letting him in their life and mine. I've had both friends and family threaten to turn their backs on me if I go ahead with it.

But surely if he's able to be a decent dad and make the kids happy, love them the way I do and not just in the flippant "oh, my kids I've a right to see them" way then what's the harm? Cause if he's really changed then it'll be me that's the one who deprived my dc of their father and that's not right.

So aibu or are they? Should I really give him a chance (and only one chance) or should I tell him he doesn't have a right? (I have full custody through courts btw, if that helps?)

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however · 25/07/2014 13:11

When I said see his counsellor, I meant without him. Not doing a joint session.

After reading your injuries though, I'd put the brakes on now, frankly, and never see him again. Your children won't suffer from not meeting a man capable of that.

You also didn't answer the question of maintenance. I presume he hasn't paid any?

That men like that can think they can just swan in and take up where they left off shouldn't shock me, but it does.

CompletelyStumped · 25/07/2014 13:16

No he's never paid any maintenance and I didn't think to ask him to, I spoke to the options service who deal with it once but as he was on benefits at the time then he would be paying next to nothing and I didn't go through with it. Now I'm kinda sitting on the fence a bit too. I've a good job and make enough to provide for dc and support us but it can be a bit of a struggle sometimes

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CompletelyStumped · 25/07/2014 13:17

I also think that his violence was due to the drink and drugs (not that it excuses it or makes it alright). When we first got together he wasn't a big drinker and didn't take drugs. He was charming, friendly and loving back then, when the drink and drugs started he changed

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Inertia · 25/07/2014 13:18

Your children's need to be protected from a man who is proven to be so violent that he has hospitalised someone trumps every single other need.

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QuipFree · 25/07/2014 13:30

Given his past, he would need to prove himself first. Regular maintenance payments, regular cards and photos to the DC, no pressure or making you feel uncomfortable, no acting like he is entitled to contact. I would want this to go on for a year.

If he can keep that up, then I'd start planning contact centres and phone calls. But if in time he becomes a regular part of their lives, he may be able to go back to court and seek a different arrangement. Can you envision a time when you would happily wave them off to spend the weekend with him?

So go really, really slowly.

I would be a Hmm that he has contacted you about getting to know them, but hasn't simply set up maintenance himself. You shouldn't have to tell him.

however · 25/07/2014 13:30

I agree with Inertia.

But they're your kids, it's your decision. But there's no rush, is there? You don't have to do anything right now. He wants to see the kids, and if you decide he can it's up to you to decide when. If you absolutely must, give him a year of paying maintenance first. That'll test his commitment.

ElizabethMedora · 25/07/2014 14:17

God, reading about your injuries puts a different complexion on it. And a bloody great big well done to you for protecting yourself & your children Thanks. I think supervised contact centres sounds a sensible option to consider.

Jinty64 · 25/07/2014 14:55

I don't know what the right thing to do would be but I would not allow him any contact with my children.

diddl · 25/07/2014 15:05

I'd feel like that too Jinty

He sounds an absolute thug & I'd be too worried to ever leave my/his kids with him.

believeintheshield · 25/07/2014 18:00

I don't have any experience of this, but I think you're doing a good thing. People can change, and if he's really getting help for all his problems it's great that you're willing to give him a chance. I think SS advice and contact centres is the way to go. Good luck Thanks

flyingtrue · 25/07/2014 22:34

I think giving him a second chance will show your DC you bent over backwards to help them see their dad but how long exactly has he got his act together? A week, two? A months? A year? That would definitely prompt my response either way.

But set guidelines and rules, keep to them and keep distant from him. Don't let him back in your life even if he's in your kids.

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