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to ask on behalf of my DSis what parental rights her STBEx has?

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Sahkoora · 24/07/2014 13:58

Little bit of background: my DSis and her STBEx separated after less than a year of being married, they have a DS who is now 4 who was born while they were married. Ex is on birth certificate.

Ex is awkward and a PITA, flatly refused to sign divorce papers, never paid CM etc. His mum, however, has provided free childcare for DSis at weekends so she can work.

Since they separated, DSis has met a new bloke, moved in and is now pregnant. They plan to marry once DSis can divorce without needing Ex's consent.

DSis is worried about new ways Ex can make things awkward for her. Her new DP is not happy that DSis still has ex's name etc as it is appearing on all the expected baby's paperwork etc.

She is worried that because she is still married to Ex, he will have some sort of responsibility towards the new baby, as he is the legal father if they are married, even though this is not biologically the case? I have not heard of this, so wanted to find out if it's true.

She's also worried about her DS having a different surname to the rest of the family once she married DP. Will this make it awkward for her to take him on holiday etc? If ex's permission is needed, he would definitely refuse.

Ex is really not interested in his DS, spends as little time with him as he can get away with, but he does love to make things awkward. Very unlikely that he would allow DP to adopt him.

Thanks, just looking to clarify exactly what rights Ex has here.

OP posts:
deakymom · 24/07/2014 16:32

she needs to register the baby with her new partner he (the ex) will still legally be able to register the baby as his own if he really wants to and could name it anything

unfortunately a friend of mine did this and her ex threatened to register her baby as his own as he refuses to give her a divorce thank goodness there was one at the hospital and she did it asap she is now pregnant with number two by the other man and still not divorced from her husband its a mess and JK worthy

SpeakerOut · 24/07/2014 18:11

Why doesn't she just change her name by deedpoll to her current DP's name? My friend did this as she still had her ExH name and when they (her and new DP) got married a year later it wasn't an issue.

It's so simple and easy. Just do it online, about £35 and it will all be done in a few days. They send you certified copies for passport/driving licence etc and also a template letter you can just fill in the blanks and photocopy and you send it to your bank/doctor/anyone else that needs to know, and that's it.

EarthWindFire · 24/07/2014 19:14

How long has she been seperate from her ex?

EarthWindFire · 24/07/2014 19:15

Why doesn't she just change her name by deedpoll to her current DP's name? My friend did this as she still had her ExH name and when they (her and new DP) got married a year later it wasn't an issue.

I think it is the exs sons sure that she is concerned about.

EarthWindFire · 24/07/2014 19:24

Not sure where that rxtra sure came from Confused

hedwig2001 · 24/07/2014 19:46

Her DP also needs to get his head around the fact that, the baby will be known as "Baby DSis name" in hospital! As soon as baby is registered, hospital records can be changed to DP's surname.
I work in SCBU and lots of Dads have problems with that rule.

SpeakerOut · 24/07/2014 19:48

If they are planning on getting married anyway and this baby is also going to have that name, then the Exs son is going to have a different name at some point.

wannaBe · 24/07/2014 20:03

I would be a bit Hmm about the dp having issue with her having her ex's name. I have my ex's name as does my ds. If my dp started insisting that I change it because he didn't like the tie I had to my ex I would take issue with that because tbh a child is a far greater tie to someone than a name... If I ever married my dp I would take his name but then and only then. And ds' name is his to do with as he sees fit.

And I think changing your name by deed pole to the name of your partner is a bit creepy, but maybe that's just me.

Isetan · 24/07/2014 20:12

I personally think your DSis should be worrying more about the impact of her "jumps headlong into new relationships and commits very quickly without getting a chance to know people" ways, rather than distracting herself with name changing bulshit.

bigredtractor · 24/07/2014 20:48

Just wanted to pick up on a point that a couple of people have made - maybe I've interpreted it incorrectly (sorry if I have).

Are people suggesting that the sister's ex partner could register the birth of her new baby (her and her new partner's baby) as his own and therefore claim parental responsibility?

Surely not. When I had my two DC I was given a form from the hospital at the time of my discharge, which we needed to present to the registry office in order to register their births, to prove that the baby(ies) existed. The former partner (I assume) wont be present at the birth of the new baby so couldn't possibly have the info to register the birth and name himself as the father.

EarthWindFire · 24/07/2014 20:54

Are people suggesting that the sister's ex partner could register the birth of her new baby (her and her new partner's baby) as his own and therefore claim parental responsibility

No people are saying that he can't but she can't change the surname of the exs son to that of the new DP

kawliga · 24/07/2014 21:01

I personally think your DSis should be worrying more about the impact of her "jumps headlong into new relationships and commits very quickly without getting a chance to know people" ways, rather than distracting herself with name changing bulshit.

This. She is engaged while still married to someone she married only a short while ago. And now there is a second baby coming into this situation.

DrJuno · 24/07/2014 21:21

turbo that's incorrect.

She only needs exH's permission to take her ds away if it's for over 30 days.

And she can go to court for this permission if he refuses it.

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