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To give up on DP's kids? Resentment is becomming oh too obvious

49 replies

StarklyDoesIt · 23/07/2014 15:25

Firstly, DP and his ex were split long before I met him, nothing to do with me.

When I first met his kids (mid teens at the time) they were really quiet with me, made no attempt at conversation and was bordering on cold shouldering me. They're just shy DP assured me. I took his word for it.

In time, youngest started to warm up, talked to me a lot more and now we get on really well. Eldest started to become more sociable with me too and although he never initiated conversation, he would engage it if I started it.

So for a while I thought everything was ok, never going to be best mates but friendly is all I ask for.

Now, things seem to be going wayward again. For a start, eldest is refusing to come most weekends (they used to come every saturday night without fail) saying he's "tired". When he does come he's arsey with me, if I try and talk to him he barely looks at me and gives one word answers. No idea why, we've had no crossed words or anything.

Now more recently, their mum has told DP that youngest might not want to come every week as he's "tired" but doesn't want to say anything incase it upsets DP. This could just be down to their ages but it all seems to be coming at once.

Anyway to cut long story short, I think they really resent me. They used to go on holidays abroad with their parents every year and since they split the lads have not left the country as their mun won't travel and has talked them out of going with their dad saying she'll "miss them too much" if they do. Meanwhile, they see me going off on yearly holidays with their dad instead.

Thing is I'm being made to feel guilty when none of this is my fault. It's not my fault their parents split, it's not my fault their mum refuses to work so has little money, it's not my fault she won't take them abroad and it's not my fault they can't come abroad with us. Yet DP tells me stuff like "oh well, DSS2 was talking about America in the car and could we go, I said I'd speak to you about it and he said "well if Starkly doesn't want to go that means we don't get to go doesn't it." and "DS1 doesn't want to see our holiday snaps posted all over facebook when the furthest he's been is cornwall, no wonder he's upset and doesn't want to know us."

Now I'm sorry but I work full time, I work hard and I've never done anything to hurt anyone so why the hell should I feel guilty for going on holiday and for having a decent house etc? (another one of DPs comments were "the poor kids, stuck in that little terrace house whilst we're living in this big detached house." He says it in a way that implies I should feel guilty but no, why should I? I don't mean to sound cold but its not my fault their mum makes a career out of benefits. I've never said this to them of course but the problem lies with the fact that she spent her entire life living off DP and now he's gone she's back to basics. I'm not living off him, I work. So I won't feel guilty for what I have.

The latest one is that we've arranged a camping trip for the end of August. I was quite looking forward to it until I say the way DP has tried to sell it to his kids:

"I'm taking you and your brother away camping in August". No mention of me or my kids who are also part of this - because he knows full well his kids (or rather his eldest) won't want to go if he knows I'm going.

AIBU to just give up trying with them and do my own thing? including letting them do this camping thing on their own since I'm clearly not welcome? I've already started working most weekends as it's made really obvious that they'd all rather me not be around during access visits. His eldest is almost 19 btw which, IMO is too old to be pussy footed around by other adults.

OP posts:
Thumbwitch · 23/07/2014 17:01

Darkest - his ex divorced him, did you see that?

OneDreamOnly · 23/07/2014 17:09

Why couldn't they live in their da's big house? And why why did their mum made them feel guilty for going abroad? I mean none if it is your fault and the last certainly isn't your DH fault.

I think it's time for them to grow up and to learn to forge their own relationship with their dad, regardless of what their mum says.
And also to earn to make their own judgement if the situation. But your DH seems to be supporting the idea that they had it hard, that it's normal they feel so annoyed and for whatever reason seem happy to support the idea it's somehow your fault. Maybe because it's easier for him that to stand up to his dcs and tell them the truth??

ScarlettDragon · 23/07/2014 17:14

Hang on, at 19 and 17 why aren't they paying for their own holidays abroad? Confused One is an adult and the other is about to be! My DSD has been paying for her own holidays abroad since she was 16! She still comes away with us sometimes (in the UK) but has loads of holidays abroad with her mates.

mrssnodge · 23/07/2014 17:26

Wish my DSD would give up every weekend - fri pm till sun eve and shes 15- dont say i have to do this till shes 19! ( lightearted...ish!)

Darkesteyes · 23/07/2014 17:41

Yes Thumbwitch. And it wont have been for no reason......hence why I asked what I did.

Judgypants73 · 23/07/2014 18:16

Who's house is it?

Could your dp afford to bring them on a holiday just the 3 of them, sounds like they might need to re connect?

toldmywrath · 23/07/2014 20:46

OP you have dropped in quite a few mentions of things dp has said to undermine you. Are you sure that your relationship with him is working?
I'd be more concerned about his apparent lack of support for you & the little digs, than what his teenaged children think (teens are notoriously stroppy beings)
How old are your dc & do they live with you?

airforsharon · 23/07/2014 21:01

it sounds like the problem is - your dh's ex wife won't take the dcs abroad herself, and won't let them go with you and dh. is that it in a nutshell?

Aren't they old enough now to make their own choice about who they go away with? The problem is for your dh and his ex to thrash out.

I can't help thinking the dcs (well, young adults) sounds pretty spoilt if all this is being caused because they feel 'deprived' of a foreign holiday every year. My parents were never able to take me abroad but I didn't give them grief about it.

You sound really angry and are quite insulting about his ex. I'm sure sahms would take issue with being told they 'live off' their dh's. There are many reasons why a parent might not work outside the home. It doesn't make them spongers.

I think your problem is with your dh, sorry.

kawliga · 24/07/2014 08:13

I agree with all the posters saying the problem is your DP. Can't believe you are blind to that, instead you are focusing on the stroppy teenagers and their mother whom you have never met and is nothing to do with you. Your DP sounds childish and like a shit-stirrer. He sounds more immature than his teenage children.

Can't believe he said this to you "the poor kids, stuck in that little terrace house whilst we're living in this big detached house." What, is he 12? Are you his mother? Tell him to grow up.

Pancakeflipper · 24/07/2014 08:21

Have you sat down with your DO and gone through what looks like his resentment to the house/holidays. Is he dumping 'blame' on you to absolve himself of blame. I think you need a serious talk to him. If you can work together on this then both speak to the boys about access and hols now they are older and having more independent lives.

Pancakeflipper · 24/07/2014 08:22

DP not DO ....

WatchingSeaMonkeys · 24/07/2014 08:27

Personally I'd step back & let him get on with dealing with his kids - I'd make sure they're aware you'll be camping in August too & they decide not to come because of that fact then you're better off!

One is an adult & the other near as dammit, they need to stop making up reasons to feel sorry for themselves & get on with living life......

GodDamnBatman · 24/07/2014 08:27

Yeah, his kids aren't obligated to like you. But the fact that DP is allowing it to become a problem, is a big problem.

He alone is responsible for his family, not you.

Not your circus. Not your monkeys.

If he's not going to manage his own monkeys, find a man that will.

layla888 · 24/07/2014 08:30

I haven't read all the comments but I was in a similar situation when I was a teen and truth is when kids are growing up/ in their teens they want to spend weekends with their mates not their dad and step mum! I wouldn't take it so personally.

layla888 · 24/07/2014 08:45

Also I would let your husband take his kids to the states just the 3 of them im sure their mom would agree to that. It would probably be the last holiday they have together with their dad since they're 17 & 19.

Yes the ex wife should be working but its really nothing to do with you (sorry that sounded rude Smile) I would just let them get on with it make it clear that you're home is always open to them but concentrate on your kids.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 24/07/2014 08:49

If it was the ex who instigated their breakup, it sounds like he has a lot of unresolved anger and bitterness over it.

"the poor kids, stuck in that little terrace house whilst we're living in this big detached house." = "My family could have lived in a house like this."

"DS1 doesn't want to see our holiday snaps posted all over facebook when the furthest he's been is cornwall, no wonder he's upset and doesn't want to know us." = "We could have had a nice family holiday with DS1 and posted the pics on FB."

He has some serious bitterness that he needs to get over.

PleaseJustShootMeNow · 24/07/2014 08:57

I agree with the others, your problem is with your dp who is scapegoating you, not his kids.

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 24/07/2014 09:04

Also agree, your DP is the problem.

17 and 19 year olds will do what they want. I wouldn't go camping with younger kids at that age, TBH, regardless of family relationships etc.

mommy2ash · 24/07/2014 09:05

at that age access weekends should be a thing of the past they are way too old.

it sounds to me like they need time alone with their dad. they shouldn't be rude to you but they don't have to want to see you all the time either, it hi the relationship with their dad that is important. at their age I would see you as dads partner not a stepmother so not really important in their lives.

your partner shouldn't say things to put you down but why don't you pull him up on it when he does. nobody has the power to make you feel anything you are deciding to feel guilty. since you know you have done nothing wrong don't bother it's a waste of energy

Finola1step · 24/07/2014 09:07

Completely agree with other posters. The "dc" are young adults and should be treated as such.

Step back. Let your dp organise his own relationship with his own children. But at some point there needs to be a very frank conversation with your dp about the way in which he sees the situation.

madamweasel · 24/07/2014 09:07

As a (now grown up) step child, I'd say don't give up on them!!!!

17&19 seem like almost adults but they're only just not children, if you see what I mean. Sometimes older teenagers are immature for their age and sometimes when there's been a family break up their emotional maturity can be really erratic and irrational.

I still get jealous when my DF and Stepmother go on holiday with my stepsister and her family, even though we're in our 30s and would be welcome too! Which I know is totally immature and unreasonable and I hope I successfully hide these silly feelings but where family is concerned, sometimes one just can't help it. I think being a child of divorce can make one really emotionally insecure, even if in other areas of your life you are confident.

I'm positive that your DSC wish they could come on holiday with you but probably don't want to blame their DM for not allowing it so you've become the scapegoat. I would push DP to invite them abroad and ask them directly if they'd like to go, making it blatantly obvious that you'd welcome them along. That way their attention can turn on convincing their DM to let them go, or disobeying her wishes since they are old enough to make up their own minds. Surely they could be leaving home soon so she'll have to deal with 'missing them' permanently.

Unless you split from DP, you'll have these boys/men in your life for years to come and it's worth trying to keep a good relationship with them, I'm sure they'll grow out of this surly, resentful phase once they are independent and have jobs/wives/lives of their own. They might be unhappy with other aspects of their lives and just be taking it out randomly on silly things.

I hope things work out.

Chunderella · 24/07/2014 09:33

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MsVestibule · 24/07/2014 09:36

I agree with pp^^ - your DP is the problem here, not his children or their mum. And talking about her 'living off her DH' is pretty rude. I imagine he will have benefited from this arrangement too at the time.

Why is he recounting conversations where you have been insulted by his children? Very immature on his part. What was your reaction when he discussed taking them to America? Using that particular example, if you are happy to go with them, next time you're together, can you or your DP say you would like to take them? Don't even mention getting their mum's 'permission'; at their age, it's between them and their mum, nothing to do with you or DP.

Damnautocorrect · 24/07/2014 09:47

At 17 id just got a full time job and I spent every weekend in bed watching tv I wanted to watch until about 1pm when I'd surface for food, maybe go back, maybe go out. Then go out at about 8pm and get in early hours of the morning.
At 19 I had a mortgage and a flat.

I think your husband needs to talk to them about what they want to be doing, and yes to a last holiday. He also needs to pack in the guilt trips, and stop 'blaming' everyone for the kids not wanting to come. Do they get to veg in bed if they want or is he planning trips getting them up?

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