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To feel annoyed the school commemorated September 11th but not 7th July?

94 replies

MamaPain · 07/07/2014 19:14

I don't know if I'm being unreasonable as it obviously isn't a competition but as a school in London I would have thought something should certainly be done for the latter regardless. Seems even more bizarre to remember one and not the other more closely related incident.

It's an event that I, like most Londoners, (and maybe people around the country) have deep personal emotions about and as 52 Londoner's died I think they deserve some recognition.

I know they held something last year.

Did your schools do anything?

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VictorianGrandchild · 07/07/2014 21:46

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CinderToffee · 07/07/2014 21:51

Hardly a lack of news - it was certainly in the news at the time! And not just for a few days either.

flippinada · 07/07/2014 21:52

No, it doesn't at all. Your posts are actually quite shocking. I genuinely don't understand how a literate adult could not be aware.

SquigglySquid · 07/07/2014 21:56

Well, it's not about the number of people that died.

The Oklahoma bombing in the US doesn't get a moment of silence anymore than the Boston marathon bombing does.

I'm not trying to be heartless, but there is a huge difference between a political attack and a civilian murder spree. The World Trade Towers and Pentagon were political targets. A bus full of people was a civilian target that was senseless violence, but no deeper message. There's a deeper symbolism to a political attack than a random murder spree.

It's the difference between killing the queen and some random old lady. Yeah, an old lady died, but an attack on the queen would be a deeper message and have different implications.

In short, 9/11 sent America and the rest of the world a message. A bus full of people blowing up was just senseless violence.

MamaPain · 07/07/2014 21:57

Well Victorian, I hope some shoves a sparkler right up your arse this year. What an insensitive and callous comment.

I'm presuming you meant to be so provocative. Snaps for you.

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londonrach · 07/07/2014 21:57

Nothing on news I can remember so nothing when we returned. I didn't see the news whilst in France as no TV in gite. Seriously hubby and I knew nothing until today send a goggle following this post.

Anyway I'm sorry for the loses. Yes there should have been something done within the schools. I certainly remember sept 11th as with a friend who best friend was in one of the towers (she was ok). I remember the wait and worry. Xxx

MamaPain · 07/07/2014 22:01

But how can yo not be aware. It has been mentioned often since. It was mentioned throughout the Olympics coverage and just two weeks later there was a second attempted bombing of the tube.

My DH's grandad who lives in a tiny village in the Jamaican countryside heard the same day, through Jamaican TV and phoned us.

Didn't any of your family or friends mention it when you cam home?

On another thread a poster in France said the church range bells and held a service or something.

I just cannot believe what you're saying.

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dexter73 · 07/07/2014 22:03

There are articles in the paper and the news every year as well as tv programmes about 7/7. It is just inconceivable to me that you cannot have heard about it just because you were on holiday for 10 days.

citybranch · 07/07/2014 22:03

You don't remember the failed attempt two weeks after the bombings? The Jean Charles Demenezes shooting in the aftermath? Nobody in London spoke about anything else for months, it was on the news/papers every day.

SquigglySquid · 07/07/2014 22:06

Yeah, even here in the egocentric US we heard about the bombing. It was all over the news here. But I didn't remember the exact date.

MamaPain · 07/07/2014 22:13

Yes it's reasonable not to remember the exact date. That's what I presumed had happened when Londonrach first posted.

But to be totally unaware of the event itself? I'm not suggesting it's malicious but it does seem unbelievable.

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ICanSeeTheSun · 07/07/2014 22:13

Londonrach I can not believe someone who has london in their username wouldn't know this.

I have never been to London, but I bet the weeks after bombings transport was a nightmare.

I can't believe the lack of coverage on this. However I think it's good that it is a low key event where the family and friends can go and grieve/show their respect without a million cameras

thecatfromjapan · 07/07/2014 22:19

Ummmm - civilian attacks ARE political. That's not just my view- it's the orthodoxy of most university politics departments.
Trying to void these attacks of their political content is usually the strategy of quite conservative forces.

hmc · 07/07/2014 22:19

Oh ffs - give LondonRach a break!

thecatfromjapan · 07/07/2014 22:23

To be honest, I think there is a bit if a concerted effort at minimising the tube bombings. How else do we keep the workers circulating into the capital?
For what it's worth, I thought about the people today.

MrsCakesPremonition · 07/07/2014 22:27

Of course 7.7 was a political and a terrorist act. It was designed to cause terror.

GiantIsopod · 07/07/2014 22:35

YANBU.

My sister died.

DD was two months, DS wasn't even born. They only know her through stories and photos. Their school had an assembly. Maybe on the 10th anniversary, I'll speak in it, I don't know. I can't believe anyone could miss it, I barely remember what happened, it was just not knowing what was going on and hearing about disruption, then hearing about bombing, then my brother in law phoned us in the afternoon. She died two days later. And then the defacing of the memorial...because some sick people decided to make our grief into even more of a political point.

jay55 · 07/07/2014 22:39

I was in Bolivia when 7/7 happened and everyone knew about it. All over the news, I think especially as it happened just after we'd won the Olympic bid.

I think sept 11 has become the collective date to remember those lost to terrorism. As long as we teach kids about many cases including 7/7 I don't think we need multiple days of public remembrance.

MrsCakesPremonition · 07/07/2014 22:43

GiantIsopod, I'm so sorry that you lost your sister Thanks.

MamaPain · 07/07/2014 22:43

I am so sorry or your loss Giant, it is unimaginable to have something so awful happen. On the day I couldn't locate one of my sisters and to experience even a second of that emotion was devastating. I cannot begin to comprehend how you must feel.

I think it's important that we remember and reflect because the victims, like your sister deserve to acknowledged and have a place in our thoughts.

I don't expect there is anything I could say which would be of any comfort to you but hopefully you know regardless of the posts on this thread, the vandalism and the media courage or lack of, I and many people have had families like yours in our thoughts today. Thanks

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MamaPain · 07/07/2014 22:45

So full of typos, I will repost.

I am so sorry for your loss Giant, it is unimaginable to have something so awful happen. On the day I couldn't locate one of my sisters and to experience even a second of that emotion was devastating. I cannot begin to comprehend how you must feel.

I think it's important that we remember and reflect because the victims, like your sister, deserve to be acknowledged and have a place in our thoughts.

I don't expect there is anything I could say which would be of any comfort to you but hopefully you know regardless of the posts on this thread, the vandalism and the media coverage or lack of, I and many people have had families like yours in our thoughts today. Thanks

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thecatfromjapan · 07/07/2014 22:47

My thoughts go to you, giant loops - I'm sorry you lost her.

thecatfromjapan · 07/07/2014 22:51

Giantlsopod. And sorry that my predictive text is so idiotically inappropriate.

Pipbin · 07/07/2014 22:59

I only remembered it when I wrote the date at work today.

I think the lack of commemoration is that in the UK we tend to pick ourselves up and get on with it. After all the years of IRA bombings we almost got used to it. The WTC was on a much larger scale but it hit a country who had no idea that something like this could happen on their shores. I remember at the time of the 7/7 bombings I had to go through London about 2 days later and I was so proud of the way that the country was just getting on with life.

That said, going back to your original post, there should have been a mention of it in assembly today if they had previously mentioned 9/11, especially as you are in London.

Quangle · 07/07/2014 23:07

giant I am so sorry you lost your sister. What a terrible thing you have endured.

I am a Londoner and I think that London's experiences of terrorism tend to get moved on from too quickly, perhaps because we have endured this for decades. I used to work at Canary Wharf and the Canary Wharf bombing (which killed 2 and injured 40) was almost completely obliterated from anyone's mind, only a couple of years later. Ditto the Harrods bomb which killed 6, and the Baltic Exchange bomb and the Bishopsgate bomb etc. Compared to the blanket coverage of, say, the Boston marathon bombing which would have just been all in a day's work at the height of the IRA's activities.

So yes, I agree. There should have been more recognition of the date. All of us remember exactly where we were when that news broke and all the awful events that followed. As mamapain rightly said, even though it can be of very little comfort to giant, the events of the day and the families of those affected were in the thoughts of many of us today. I wish I could say our risk of terrorism today is lower than it was then but I fear that's not the case.