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To think this company's reaction to problems with their recruitment process is morally, if not legally, unfair...

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SignYourName · 03/07/2014 12:55

...and generally a bit shit?

My DSD spotted an online job advert on Sunday for a position she really wants. The advert had been listed since mid-June and the closing date was mid-July. She registered and filled in the basic contact details, and planned to spend this weekend coming filling in the (quite lengthy, core competence-based) application form.

On Tuesday she received an email informing her that as the interest in the position had reached high levels, they were bringing the closing date forward to midnight last night. She completed about half of the form that night and, as she is currently self-employed, she rearranged her day yesterday in order to finish early and complete the form.

She was unable to log-in yesterday to get back to her partially-complete form; she just received a repeated error message. She checked the email in case she had misunderstood or mis-read the date but it definitely said midnight on 2nd July. She tried to contact the company's technical support team - there was no phone number listed anywhere but she tried via email, their Twitter feed and their Facebook page. Unfortunately she had no response and midnight came and went without her being able to complete the form. She spent the evening working on what she could remember of the core competence examples in a Word document anyway, in the hope that she could C&P them in quickly if the site came back up later. Just before midnight, in desperation she emailed a copy of her CV with the Word document attached and a brief explanation asking them to consider her application under the circumstances.

This morning she managed to speak to someone in their HR department and asked if they would accept it; she was told no, they would only accept their standard forms. She double-checked that she had understood the revised date correctly, as you could argue it might, at a stretch, have meant midnight on Tuesday i.e. the start of 2nd July, and she had. She then asked if they would extend the deadline under the circumstances and was told no again. Essentially it's just hard lines, they make no guarantees that the online application system will be available and they have sufficient applications not to need any more.

Personally I feel that if this is indicative of their working practices, she has had a lucky escape (and I also suspect they probably disabled the online system deliberately yesterday to keep application numbers down) but she is understandably disappointed as this is a career path she has been wanting to get on for a while now and vacancies aren't advertised very frequently.

AIBU to think this is a pretty unprofessional, arbitrary way to handle recruitment?

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Papaluigi · 03/07/2014 13:02

YANBU. I have every sympathy with her. I think you're right, sounds like a half-arsed way to go about things.

thenightsky · 03/07/2014 13:03

I agree, it is pretty bad form. It's not an NHS Trust is it?

The one I work for has taken to advertising jobs internally, but at about 10 past 5 on a Friday, with a closing date of midnight Sunday, knowing full well that the majority of staff go home at 5pm on Friday and return at 9am Monday morning and don't have access to the Trust website internal job page at home. Hmm

SignYourName · 03/07/2014 13:05

It's not NHS. I don't want to name the company, but it's transport-related.

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SadOldGit · 03/07/2014 13:07

Many NHS jobs say they will close early if large number of applicants.However the job was listed from mid June - when I am job hunting I trawl at least every 2 days (NHS alerts daily) so am ready to submit application as soon as it opens.

Rubadubstylee · 03/07/2014 13:07

I know a uni which closes applications once 100 have been received - I've seen them close in a morning! I'm curious to know how this stacks up on an equality basis as I'm pretty certain "fastest finger first" excludes a large number of people on social and disabilty grounds alone.

thetoysarealiveitellthee · 03/07/2014 13:08

YABU

They brought the closing date forward (not illegal, nor immoral, and can be done at any time) ad your DD had a number of days to complete the form.

"Personally I feel that if this is indicative of their working practices, she has had a lucky escape"

On the flip side, would the company want someone who takes 4 days to complete an application form? Sorry to be harsh but its really competitive out there and it is literally a case of "you snooze you lose" unfortunately. I had a job that I had a closing date of the 1st July that I had to close off two weeks earlier due to the sheer volume of applicants.

SignYourName · 03/07/2014 13:09

Plus, while I appreciate I'm biased as she's my DSD and I think she's great, if I were a recruiter I'd be bloody impressed at her initiative - the different ways she tried to contact their technical support; the pseudo-application she cobbled together in lieu of the real thing, not being afraid to ring HR and suggest solutions; I would have thought that's just the type of person they're looking for!

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CoffeeTea103 · 03/07/2014 13:09

You're right in that it's indicative of their business practice. Good on your dd for putting so much of effort as well as following up about the deadline. I'm sure the right employer will appreciate her enthusiasm.

BananaBumps · 03/07/2014 13:10

I've seen jobs advertised with an end date, but also the warning that they will close the application site once they have sufficient applications, so you just need to do it ASAP. It's an employer's market at the moment.

PedantMarina · 03/07/2014 13:13

G'wan. Name & shame. You know you want to....

Doooooo Iiiiittttttt.

SignYourName · 03/07/2014 13:16

It didn't exactly take her "four days to complete an application form". At the point she registered (Sunday night), there was still apparently two full weeks until the closing date and she works more than full-time (she's a driving instructor, so at this time of year she often has lessons until late into the evening). She planned her time so as to be able to do the form justice. As soon as the parameters changed, she rearranged her working hours to allow her to complete the form over two evenings - so a total of about eight hours solid work, which from my own experience of core competence forms is about standard. And she would have been able to complete it comfortably, had the site not been down.

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caramelwaffle · 03/07/2014 13:19

I pretty sure (98.2% sure) I know the Company the op is talking about.

Just a heads up: every entry level recruitment campaign in recent years has been closed early.

12000+ and 7000+ numbers applying for c100-120 positions - for recent example.

SignYourName · 03/07/2014 13:21

We don't dispute their right to close the deadline early, we're just narked that they informed her they were doing this and she adjusted her plans/timeline accordingly, then they moved the goalposts anyway by the site being unavailable for the last 6-8 hours of the period when it should still have been possible to apply. By their own admission/instruction she should have been able to apply until midnight last night; she had put things in place to be able to apply by midnight last night, and she was prevented from doing so through their technical issues, not through any fault of her own.

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LoblollyBoy · 03/07/2014 13:27

I dunno, I'm a bit out of my depth in this topic. I actually opened it hoping to read that the apocryphal story about putting half the forms in the bin "Because we want a lucky candidate" had come true.

In any event, I just wanted to say that the points you make in your third post are the points that struck home to me about the story. I'm sure it will have a happy ending.

StanleyLambchop · 03/07/2014 13:30

YANBU, its a shitty thing to do, probably a shitty company. When the job market picks up again they may find lots of their staff leave.

thetoysarealiveitellthee · 03/07/2014 13:45

The site being down may not have been deliberate, could have just been one of those things, so no fault of theirs either.

Maybe Ive just been around far too long, but to me this does not reflect badly on the company at all. It just tells me the company has had shit loads of applications, had a bit of a problem with their website, and couldn't for any reason make any exceptions for one more candidate. Maybe their recruitment is handled via a 3rd party recruiting website built in to theirs, many of them are very stringent and don't allow for any alterations to it IYSWIM.

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