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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think that the teacher shouldn't be shouting like this?

18 replies

EnchanciaAnthem · 01/07/2014 12:42

My DD is in Reception and her class teacher went on maternity leave in May. There is a teacher in covering on supply.

I have to go in 3 x a day to see DD as she is diabetic and currently the school aren't participating in her care, although in Year 1 this will hopefully change. Anyway, I've heard the teacher shouting a lot but what concerns me is what she actually says, and the over top way in which she speaks to the children.

When I go in, I stand by the coats waiting until the children come out to wash their hands and go to the toilet etc. So I'm out of view but can hear the teacher.

Today they were lining up to come out to the toilets and one of the boys was fidgeting. The teacher went absolutely ballistic she was shouting 'STAND STILL. We do not mess around in the line. Look at you, looking at me like I'M the one who has done something wrong! Are you trying to make me feel guilty? Because it won't work. It's not my fault you don't know how to behave!' And this little rant when on for quite a bit longer.

This is just one example of overblown, emotive 'telling off' I've heard and I felt terrible for the little boy. Fine, tell him to stand still - take him out of the line if he won't, but I found this to be quite humiliating language given that these kids are 4 & 5!

When she saw me, she laughed and said 'Oh, did you hear my dulcet tones?' Confused

I live across the road from the school, but when I'm in my garden I can hear her shouting including the names of who she is shouting at.

AIBU to think that this is out of order?

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angelohsodelight · 01/07/2014 12:50

Have you not told another member of staff?

EnchanciaAnthem · 01/07/2014 12:52

I'm considering it, I just want to know if this sounds wrong to other people - not just me!

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HopefulMum111 · 01/07/2014 12:52

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NigellasDealer · 01/07/2014 12:54

she sounds mental.
take some recording equipment with you

maudpringles · 01/07/2014 12:54

We had a very vocal teacher at our dd's school and we had to make reports to the head.
Other teachers could hear her and were pleased we complained.
My friends dd wet herself with nerves on several occasionsSad

ouryve · 01/07/2014 12:56

I'd be surprised if other members of staff can't hear.

caruthers · 01/07/2014 12:56

If you can hear it from across the road i'm sure other members of staff have heard it too.

SuperConfused · 01/07/2014 12:57

Please, please tell another member of staff, make a complaint, tell that boys parents if you know them. I had the experience of being effectively 'bullied' by a teacher when I was 4 or 5 - my first two years of primary school (small rural school so two classes in one). I was easily distracted and a bit clumsy, but not especially boisterous or anything, and she used to scream at me. It had a huge effect on me: I started wetting myself, was miserable, my parents had no idea what was causing it. It has honestly had a lasting impact to this day. It may seem like a minor thing, but being picked on and yelled at from someone in authority, and knowing they specifically don't like you (this teacher had favourites as well - pretty blonde girls with neat plaits) has a real impact that can last for years.

I found out years later that the teacher was forced into early retirement due to an incident with another child when that parent happened to walk in to collect early: which in some strange way makes me feel vindicated but I do wonder about the 10 years or so of kids in between.

ComposHat · 01/07/2014 12:57

No don't take recording equipment, you'll look like a crank and put the headteacher will be forced to defend his/her teacher and any sympathy will evaporate instantly.

NigellasDealer · 01/07/2014 13:00

recording equipment could be as small as a phone.

HumphreyCobbler · 01/07/2014 13:04

complain

no excuse for shouting

ComposHat · 01/07/2014 13:08

I know this nigella but in the face of this any decent boss will defend their staff against a parent clandestinely recording one of their staff when teaching even if the staff were at fault. . The actual complaint about shouting will be lost.

NigellasDealer · 01/07/2014 13:10

true....but they do that anyway IME

MrsWolowitz · 01/07/2014 13:27

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LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 01/07/2014 13:29

I suspect the Head knows but as the teacher is on supply HT is keeping their head down so as not to have the bother of dealing with it/replacing the teacher. So you should complain. I wouldn't record it though, you have perfectly good recall of the things she's been saying.

CoffeeTea103 · 01/07/2014 13:29

How can you hear her from across the road but teachers who are closer can't hear this?

maudpringles · 01/07/2014 14:00

They probably do hear it!!
In our case, the other teachers were unhappy about the continuous shouting and had raised it with the head, but when parents complained it gave more weight to the problem.

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