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23 replies

Celticchick10 · 24/06/2014 09:09

I think I am on the right thread
DS has been in hospital this weekend with tonsillitis. he had been discharged but is still ko right at all, so I took yesterday off work an told them I would be taking today and then DH would take Wednesday and Thursday off.
The thing is have been sick over night and am still being sick and can't keep off the loo so DS has had to go to my parents as he is 11 months.
DH has to go to work as he is heading up a course today for other staff.
So do I leave it with work that I am off with Ds and its gets out down as annual leave
Or do I ring to say today I am actually sick so it goes down as a sick day (work very very anal about sick days)

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Celticchick10 · 24/06/2014 09:11

Also I did try I keep Ds with me today but I am beig sick all over the place and he loves his grandma who he is with today
Also he seems a lot better today so I may have made the decision to go into work anyway.

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henrysmate · 24/06/2014 09:21

If you happen to get sick on a day you booked as leave, isn't that just bad luck? Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, I don't mean it to (and I hope you feel better soon) but it's not your employer's fault that you got ill, it just happened. If it was me I'd be taking that one on the chin.

LordEmsworth · 24/06/2014 09:24

I think that the law changed a couple of years ago so if you are sick on a day booked as annual leave, you get the day as sick not holiday...

www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3860

If a worker becomes sick whilst on annual leave, can they re- schedule the leave?
Yes, the worker is entitled to take the leave at another time, if they wish to do so.

henrysmate · 24/06/2014 09:28

Well there you go, that's me all wrong then. Thanks for the link nordEmsworth.

Celticchick10 · 24/06/2014 10:09

Hiya
Sorry I worded my post a bit wrong
I would rather take it as leave. I just don't want work to have a go if they find out i was in fact sick and not looking after Ds as I told them I was.

Does that make sense

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sparechange · 24/06/2014 10:13

What you do on your day off is not your employers business

You can spend it puking or looking after people. As long as you aren't working for a competitor or taking Class A drugs, I don't think they have any right to have a go

Crinkle77 · 24/06/2014 10:42

I work in a university and if we are sick when on annual leave we can take it as sick and take the annual leave another time. I would prefer not to do that thought as I would rather keep instances of sickness down to a minimum.

Montybojangles · 24/06/2014 10:48

Why do you want to lose annual leave when you are in fact sick?

If you are vomiting and have diarrhoea you should keep away from work for 48 hours after your last bout if diarrhoea, no one else wants it. If you just have today and tomorrow as leave you will potentially be going back to work still infectious if your illness hasn't already resolved by now.

gobbynorthernbird · 24/06/2014 12:06

Just don't tell them. You're already off, they don't need to know.

gobbynorthernbird · 24/06/2014 12:08

Monty, I'm assuming OP doesn't want to take sick leave in case she is ill again at a later date. Too many sick days can be a disciplinary matter.

Montybojangles · 24/06/2014 12:15

That would be the case anywhere, but would be unlikely to be an issue unless you are taking multiple, short term sick leave over a year.

Davsmum · 24/06/2014 13:01

If you are sick, you are sick and should take day off as sick leave. You are not expected to lose a days holiday if you are sick.
I know employers would get fed up of anyone if they were off sick all the time - but if you are truly ill, even often - then I cannot see why it would be a disciplinary matter gobbynorthernbird ?
It could take an employer a while to be able to dismiss someone as 'not fit for the job the are employed to do'

redskyatnight · 24/06/2014 13:06

If you are being sick now you won't be well enough to go into work tomorrow, so will still have a sick day. The odd sick day tomorrow will look more suspicious than 2 consecutive sick days.

Badvoc2 · 24/06/2014 13:11

If you have d and v you should not go back to work until 48 hours after the last incident.
If you are ill, you are ill.
Nothing you can do.
Hope you feel better soon.

Davsmum · 24/06/2014 13:35

How can a sick day tomorrow 'look suspicious'? Why do people assume that being off sick is something wrong and that employers should be suspicious?
It is sad that these days people are too afraid to take time off sick in case their employers don't like it!
I have no time for people who pull a sickie for no reason - but if my employer gave me a hard time when I was genuinely ill I would give him a hard time back!

Celticchick10 · 24/06/2014 14:46

We have an absence policy called the Bradford system
It basically means you can be off for six months and not get disiplined but if you take five single days off in a year you get a written warning
Apparently it's to cut down on people taking a duvet day or being off work on a mafter a heavy weekend

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Celticchick10 · 24/06/2014 14:46

Sorry that was meant to be monday

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Davsmum · 24/06/2014 15:02

What a stupid system! I would just take 6 months off instead of then. ;-)

Filimou · 24/06/2014 15:25

We have that system too. Its stupid.
A few years ago I damaged my knee and was on crutches, there were three of us in the office at that time.
Person 1 was on long term sick, person 2 just left. so thats just me and my boss. I felt really bad that work was piling up so I came in, after all I could walk but it was painful.
So, then the lift broke, was out of order for about 16 weeks. I work on the 4th floor of a building, so as not to drop everyone in it, I struggled in every day.
However, every so often the pain got too much and I took a day off. 4 days over a 5 month period.
After the last day I got in and found an email from my manager, I was to have a meeting and was going to be put on a stage 1 disciplinary as I had also been off with a migraine about 6 months earlier.
To this day, I still regret not getting signed off for the whole period and just trying to do the right thing, I shouldve just dropped her ungrateful ass in it.
IMO this system just encourages more people to come in when they are sick and should be off, and then make everyone else sick.

Sorry you're feeling rubbish OP
have some Brew

diddl · 24/06/2014 15:45

I think you want to leave it as AL, then that's up to you.

It's your leave to use as you wish.

Surely you don't have to give a reason & then stick to it??

Celticchick10 · 24/06/2014 22:28

Thanks everyone just going to leave it as AL

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gobbynorthernbird · 24/06/2014 22:34

CC I thought it would be the Bradford score. Unfortunately, those who take the odd day off when they could come in spoil it for the genuinely ill.

AbbeyBartlet · 24/06/2014 22:35

We have to have a dr note if we are off the day after annual leave!

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