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Ive Just shopped someone for benefit fraud, do I deserve to burn in hell.

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Gulitladen · 23/06/2014 14:55

I feel quite bad.

This person is an acquaintance, She was a single parent for a few months, then she met someone who pretty much moved in, he was paying her bills for her and moved in properly earlier this year.

She has always worked full time with a salary of around 20k.

She seems to have an awful lot of money, and, as a single parent myself, I couldnt quite work it out. However, I have seen her tax credits renewal form as she didnt understand something and asked me to have a look for her, and shes claiming to be a lone parent, working 16.3 hours a week, earning 12k a year less than she actually is.

She is also claiming housing benefit as a single parent.

So, I have completed the DWP form and sent it off. I couldnt help it, it makes me see red.

But I now feel terrible.

OP posts:
Etah · 23/06/2014 16:34

So were you jealous of her handbags, shoes, night outs, boyfriend or ALL of them?

You should have told her: " I think you made an error on your claims, hope you don't get caught...
And let her sweat and fix it.

Joysmum · 23/06/2014 16:34

I'd buy you a drink if I knew you.

I hate lying thieving bastards and if she's committed fraud I hope she pays for it.

I've been unemployed in the past, didn't claim until my savings ran out as I have my pride. Shame others aren't do grabby and entitled.

ApocalypseThen · 23/06/2014 16:36

But if the 'friend' has cheated the system, surely she bears the responsibility for any harm that comes to her family as a result?

That's one honest, hard working, no-benefits-claiming 'if' right there.

GarlicJuneBlooms · 23/06/2014 16:37

If the OP is wrong, she won't lose any of her benefits when investigated, so no problem
Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

Another personal story: I was made homeless by an interfering neighbour who assumed I was fiddling (I wasn't!) because she saw me in the pub Confused Benefits were suspended, rent wasn't paid, landlord wouldn't wait, I was evicted.

The rent arrears were made up when the investigation concluded - but by then I'd been forced to go & live with a family member hundreds of miles away, which was hideous and meant I could only be re-housed in the new area. Which I'm still in, still missing my friends.

Although it sounds like OP hasn't done any harm this time, reporting innocent people does make them homeless & starving. It can be hard to believe the system isn't 'fair', but, now you know, please don't do this unless you're looking at somebody living a millionaire lifestyle on benefits.

Scousadelic · 23/06/2014 16:37

I'm going to go against the trend here and say I think you've done the right thing. People getting away with this encourages others to do the same and, if she is claiming falsely, she should be held accountable.

I would gladly help someone in need, I would however object strongly to someone who is not in desperate need helping themselves to money out of my wallet and what your friend is doing is just the same as that.

You will always get flamed for reporting anyone on here OP, it's not the correct MN outlook to criticise anything about anybody on benefits whether they are entitled to them or not.

ChickenFajitasAndNachos · 23/06/2014 16:38

She will probably guess it was you OP that reported her as you helped her with the forms.

LeftyLoony · 23/06/2014 16:40

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kslatts · 23/06/2014 16:42

I think you have done the right thing, assuming your facts are correct.

WooWooOwl · 23/06/2014 16:43

I'm glad you don't feel bad anymore. You don't deserve to feel bad, you have done nothing wrong.

You have done the opposite, a very good thing that more people should do when they know for a fact that someone is screwing the system. Be proud of yourself for having decent morals.

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NickiFury · 23/06/2014 16:45

joysmum. It's nothing to do with "pride". Presumably you'd paid into the system previously, presumably you're paying in now? More than you'd have ever taken out no doubt. Fine to use your savings till they ran out not fine to put it down to "pride".

YouTheCat · 23/06/2014 16:45

Lefty, if it's a journalist, I hope they learn to use the spell check facility very soon. Grin

AbbeyBartlet · 23/06/2014 16:46

Fair play, OP, I hope I would have done the same.

But if the 'friend' has cheated the system, surely she bears the responsibility for any harm that comes to her family as a result?

^^ THIS

Gulitladen · 23/06/2014 16:48

Ive namechanged, im not stupid enough to post this under my usual name.

have been here a while, river of poo, mad tablecloth lady, cod, etc etc.

Its not vindictive in any way, other than its just not right, shes lying, about a lot of things. Thats not fair.

If i just suspected, or it wasnt so much, then I wouldnt have done anything about it, but since I do know the facts, then I felt I had to do something.

I dont need to prove to any of you how I know the facts, but they are facts, mostly from the horses mouth, if not from other means. If it was assumption and I wasnt sure, I would not have acted.

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Gulitladen · 23/06/2014 16:50

Well, thanks for the journalist tag. Who knew my typing and grammar was up to such standards.
Hmm

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PiggyontheRailway · 23/06/2014 16:51

Fucking hell all the people willing to report someone based on "wot I reckonery" on this thread is scary because lets face what concrete proof do you actually have.
I wish that people would own their nasty behaviour I think it is clear OP has done this because this woman can afford the things she can't. You know what I find less trustworthy than benefit cheats, people that are prepared to fuck someone over beacuse they don't like them but who pretend they are doing it because it's the right thing to do and who then try and take the moral high road about it when called out, but then again I am an honest person , so if I was going to grass anyone up I'd bloody tell them and I'd tell them why and fuck what they have to say about it.

LeftyLoony · 23/06/2014 16:52

Oh and Joy are you saying disabled people and their carers should have no pride?

I think you are.

If that's true then you're a bigot.

OPs like this piss me off because there are a merry band of twats on here who never fail to pop out of the woodwork and make the lives of families like mine that little bit more miserable.

They should be ashamed. But no, the brave keyboard warriors continue with their words on a screen not giving the shiniest shite what they do to other posters. They get off on it. Smug and self congratulatory.

I'm desperately hoping karma exists. So they can get a truckload.

And yes I've been maliciously falsely reported. Any idea what that's like having 3 kids with multiple complex needs dependent on you to the degree you can't work and then having nothing to feed them with?

AbbeyBartlet · 23/06/2014 16:52

As a PP said upthread - none of it is Government money. Surely the fewer fraudulent claims, then the more money available to go to those in genuine need.

LeftyLoony · 23/06/2014 16:53

You are completely vindictive.

WooWooOwl · 23/06/2014 16:53

I can't believe that people would feel guilty for saying something but would feel fine about keeping quite when they know for a fact that someone is committing fraud.

Some people's moral compass really does need resetting. It's weird how people take pride in not being a 'grass' when we're talking about actual crime.

KirjavaTheCat · 23/06/2014 16:54

You could've, y'know, asked her about it.

I know, outlandish suggestion! Shock

NickiFury · 23/06/2014 16:54

Ok. You think you're right and arguably that may be true. But you're a coward because you didn't tell her and give her the chance to stop. If you can't do it up front then you shouldn't do it at all.

patjen · 23/06/2014 16:54

So why ask 'aibu'? then?

That's what I don't understand.

It is funny when people ask if they are being unreasonable when they are sure they are not to start with. Lol.

I suspect that you know that she will know it is you and you are crapping yourself as you didn't want the hassle. Seriously, apart from really serious crime, nobody likes a snitch.

If you weren't as unpleasant as you appear to be here, you'd have either have given her fair warning to sort things out OR told her directly what you were about to do. You have not; that makes you cowardly and unpleasant.

This is why your guts are churning.

Gulitladen · 23/06/2014 16:54

Where have I said any of this is ' wot I reckon'

I have seen her paperwork, she showed me.

I know where she works, how many hours and her rough wage.
This was not reflected in her claims.

She is living with someone, as an actual fact. He lives there, he moved in, left his house and moved in.

She is claiming as a single parent.

Again, this is an actual fact.

WHERE is this made up?

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YouTheCat · 23/06/2014 16:55

Abbey, how naive are you? Any money that doesn't get spent from the benefit budget just goes right back to the government. It's not redistributed to the good and needy you know? Confused

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