Ive Just shopped someone for benefit fraud, do I deserve to burn in hell.

[Gulitladen]

I feel quite bad.

This person is an acquaintance, She was a single parent for a few months, then she met someone who pretty much moved in, he was paying her bills for her and moved in properly earlier this year.

She has always worked full time with a salary of around 20k.

She seems to have an awful lot of money, and, as a single parent myself, I couldnt quite work it out. However, I have seen her tax credits renewal form as she didnt understand something and asked me to have a look for her, and shes claiming to be a lone parent, working 16.3 hours a week, earning 12k a year less than she actually is.

She is also claiming housing benefit as a single parent.

So, I have completed the DWP form and sent it off. I couldnt help it, it makes me see red.

But I now feel terrible.

You have self-respect?

Those poor benefit claimants mustn't have any then, or any morals. So shocking!

They should clearly be sent to do hard labour for daring to exist to clean your lav.

Actually, thinking a little more about it, given that the vast vast majority of reports of fraud are proved to be unfounded, it's people like the OP who are actually costing the hardworking tax-payer money, given that she and all the rest are wasting the fraud & investigations teams time.

It's not about benefit claimants, it's about people taking pride in the fact that they wouldn't prevent a serious crime when they have the opportunity to do so. People who may or may not be claimants, it's irrelevant. It's people's attitude that I find shocking, not people claiming what they are legally entitled to.

Woo Woo, all my best to you and your self respect

It does seem strange as on here people are generally told to call the police over actions I would view as minor irritants rather than police issues, but where benefit fraud is concerned, people can steal as much as they like because, well, it's benefits?

^This.

In the last few weeks I have seen 2 threads where 101 was suggested.

1. Someone through a melon over my mums fence and it hit her caravan.

Call 101 was some of the advice.

1. I took a photo of some one throwing a cigarette in the alley near my house. This s littering should I call 101?

However possible real criminal activity is met with calls of grass/how can you sleep at night/evil/vile???

*disclaimer the wording of the 2 threads maybe wrong but the premise is the same.

Woo, you have practically said that your view is more valid than mine because you pay more tax. This is utter bollocks.

Well, I tried reporting the MPs for their expenses.

I tried reporting corporations for tax avoidance.

Did they want to hear about it then? No! So I just make the conscious decision to save myself the effort. If they don't care about the other two, why would they care about this, eh?

No Cat, I haven't.

I have said we come from different positions if I pay tax and you don't, which is true.

Our different opinions will be influenced by our different positions, and if you don't pay tax, then you have kind of proved my point.

Stop being a cunt, Jonty. Practically everything about that thread, right down to your use of that awful word 'spaz', screams 'I'm a raging cock, look at how righteous I am!'.

I doubt that Cruikshank, there are often campaigns to get the public to report benefit fraudsters. They must save the government money overall by reporting

And I'm sure we can both agree that posts like Jontys are pretty disgusting.

I did smile at the randomness of the melon!

We earn peanuts as care assistants. Some, not many admittedly, but so,e, of the people we see are wealthy. They wouldn't know if we took a pound here or there, they can afford it and some of the care assistants have children they are struggling to feed.

Would it be OK to steal? If not, why is it OK in the situation described in the OP?

We're not at school, it isn't us and them - somebody committing benefit fraud isn't getting one over on the government. They're just stealing! That's all.

Yeah. Only some of us are on taxable benefits but don't pay tax because it's not enough for the lower threshold.

Because they're so 'generous'.

I think we all pay VAT though.

That includes the figure for claimant error though. The figure for actual fraud is lower than that. It's pretty negligible, when you look at the kind of money being talked about. Of course, it shouldn't happen at all, but when you think about how much money is allocated, the amount going to fraudulent claim is really quite small. And the work of the fraud and recovery teams is hampered, not helped, by people like the OP going off all half-cocked with assumptions and erroneous conclusions - it leaves them less time to concentrate on the real fraudsters. So the OP is wasting tax-payer resources by putting her petty little grudge forward in the guise of doing the country good.

Added to that, the consequences of you being wrong in the first situation are likely to be minimal or very short term whereas the consequences of you being wrong in the second are huge and much longer lasting.

Isn't that the fault of the system rather than those who report it?

I would 'shop' someone I suspected of benefit fraud but I also think t is WRONG to stop their claim before a proper judgement/verdict is passed.

So do i or dont i need a license plate number to shop her ? genuine question there people.

Aww Jonty you're a peach.
A foul, fetid, maggot ridden disablist one at that.

Erm, we don't all pay VAT when the money we are paying it with hasn't been earned and has instead just been given to us.

That's like me being given £100 by my Mum so that I can buy my kids school shoes and then claiming I paid for them myself. A complete joke.

Jonty
I claim child benefit and child tax credits, like most people with children in Britain.
I'm an ace mum
I'm still at uni, finished my second year the day DD was born and going straight back at the start of October for third year.
I don't feel threatened by you, I pity you.

Mm yeah. 25 is fresh out of nappies.
Disability happens. It's my reality and countless others.
You are a disablist arsehole.

Jonty that is a truly vile post. Wake up to yourself.

Well I could go to work and give my £63.15 a week back.
Care for my children to replace me would cost £3822 a week at minimum wage. Multiply that by two for my husband too. Agencies aren't minimum wage either.

We save taxpayers money.

Oh yeah it's all 3D tvs and the heating on full blast being on benefits.

But she's not on benefits, she's working and claim WTC as a part time single mother when she is working full time with her partner living with her.

I work 16 hrs and claim as a lone parent so is everyone ok with me getting cash in hand from 16 to 40 hrs and moving my working partner in then. Does anything go, what's unacceptable then? What happens if everyone does it