Ive Just shopped someone for benefit fraud, do I deserve to burn in hell.

[Gulitladen]

I feel quite bad.

This person is an acquaintance, She was a single parent for a few months, then she met someone who pretty much moved in, he was paying her bills for her and moved in properly earlier this year.

She has always worked full time with a salary of around 20k.

She seems to have an awful lot of money, and, as a single parent myself, I couldnt quite work it out. However, I have seen her tax credits renewal form as she didnt understand something and asked me to have a look for her, and shes claiming to be a lone parent, working 16.3 hours a week, earning 12k a year less than she actually is.

She is also claiming housing benefit as a single parent.

So, I have completed the DWP form and sent it off. I couldnt help it, it makes me see red.

But I now feel terrible.

OP, I think you have done the right thing.
Loads of people are blabby and loud about their finances so I don't know why so many people are doubting the story.
Also, if HMRC are so capable of cross-checking everyone's details with p60s etc, why do we have to fill in a renewal pack each year? And why do we always end up with so many under / over payments if circumstances have changed during the year (even if they have been reported)?
I think you feel guilty because we live in a society where so-called grasses are vilified and you needed someone to tell you that doing the right thing IS ok.
I agree that the system of 'guilty until proven innocent' needs to change and I have huge sympathies for anyone who has suffered as a result of malicious allegations, but the system is not OP's responsibility.

Me to. I don't really claim much in the childcare element, less than £15 a week but I still have to provide the nursery details, phone number, ofsted references etc and they told me they cross check what i tell them I am paying with the nursery to. I really don't see how you'd get away with it with tax credits tbh with the income anyway, maybe the live in partner i can understand... though i am with others, I still would not report as there is no real way of knowing all the circumstances.

special My point exactly.

Would those who never grass, really never grass even if a friend had committed a horrible crime?

Special. You can't compare a poor family who have had to cheat the system to survive to a disgusting scum bag burgalar.
I'd never report benefit fraud, ever, but I'D would report a crime.x

Ooh goody The "we were only following orders" mentality.

Natalie I didn't fill in any tax credit renewal this year, they used my information from my employer/p60.

I think many posters here do not understand the severity of benefit fraud

Yes, that 0.7% of the total benefits bill lost to fraud each year is bankrupting us. Bankrupting us, I tell you! That could build a hospital! Well, it could build a bed. Well, ok then, it could build a bit of a bed, maybe the bit at the top. Oh alright then, it could build a bed made out of lego. Which some poor starving child would be happy to have, if it weren't for all of those fraudsters robbing us.

But the OP reported her to the DWP anyway, not HRMC. SO she has reported her to the wrong people unless, of course, she is in receipt of disability benefits for herself or her children.

You can't compare a poor family who have had to cheat the system to survive to a disgusting scum bag burgalar.

They are the same - they both take things that they are not entitled to.

Hope you're feeling smug op, I really think you ought to get on with your own life and stop poking your nose into other people's. Its none of your business. .get a life and stop being jealous. Its not nice. She will know its you I bet. You started your post feeling bad about what you've done..now its an "I don't give a fuck" attitude! Im just glad you're not a friend of mine.
Why should you snitch on people when the system we have is fucked..how would you feel if you were in a position of getting your benefits cut and got called up for a "review" with atos, only to be subjected to a degrading set of so called tests to prove to people who know fuck all about you that you can still receive the pittance of money that is your "benefit". No way would I be helping the "powers that be" by snitching on anyone!Sorry but people like you who think they are doing the right thing piss me off. Butt out of other people's lifes and get on with your own.

life you realise that benfit fraud is a crime right? other wise your absolute idiocy is astounding. It is a crime, you cannot take money that does not belong to you regardless of how much you think you deserve it. Imagine if everyone took what was not owed to them. These people are thieves pure and simple and they should be reported and brought to justice if guilty.

This thread is getting more and more unbelievable, but here goes anyway...

OP what I do not understand, is why, when she asked you to take a look at something on the form, you couldn't go, "Hang on, what's this? You're claiming as a lone parent, but doesn't bf live with you now? You'd better change that, that's fraud."

That, frankly, would be far more decent than saying nothing and sneakily reporting her.

Maybe you got your facts wrong, or maybe she made a mistake. To not be willing to say anything directly, then gleefully slinking off to report and post on mn about it, is what smacks of being vindictive and jealous. You had the chance to let her rectify her mistake, or correct your assumptions, but you didn't take that.

I'm of the opinion that if you believe in your actions there's no need to hide them.

Sorry moomin, I can't remember exactly, but it was a good while. I'd half forgotten about it and a friend (who had also reported her at the same time, three of us did it) text me saying to have a look at her Facebook.

I have to say i felt a bit... Proud:/

I also used Facebook to find evidence that a boy who worked for my husband was lieing about having a bad back and was doing gigs when he was signed off. My husband fired him and I felt like some sort of hero!

The thief didn't go to prison. Didn't hear anything more about it. She still doesn't work and doesn't have children so I assume it's back to job seekers and selling the odd bit of dope.

Why do you ask.

Do you warn people on your facebook that you are a snitch and like to spend your time examining their posts for evidence to report to the authorities? Perhaps you should give them the chance to delete you.

But the analogy doesn't really work. It's more a case of turning up at the police station, saying you think someone's a burglar because they look a bit shifty, and then the police lock them up for weeks while they investigate. 9 times out of 10 the 'burglar' will be let go because it wasn't them. But you can pat yourself on the back for being a good citizen because there are burglaries and you never know it might have been the that did it.

Laugh away usual, when MN get on their high horses about people who mistakenly forget to pay for something at the supermarket, the cries of THIEF! return it asap are audible, yet you all seem to think stealing money you don't deserve is acceptable. It is a crime end of.

What a funny way to get your kicks, youmakemehappy

Downstairs glad to hear that, I still got the old style form, hopefully if they start doing that then it will make it easier for everyone, I've always tried to be honest, read the small print about what changes to report etc and still ended up getting the wrong amount every single year! (sorry if this is off thread and still think OP was right to report but always did bug me the amount of time HMRC spend asking us for info they should already have!)

Jesus Christ,Happy seriously?

Yanbu. I would do the same and not lose sleep. My parents taught me not to lie. Yes she may end up with less money but there are lots of people struggling who do not lie and could potentially be more deserving.