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AIBU?

To effectively starve my 7 year old?

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zumby · 23/06/2014 10:18

Dd has always had a tiny appetite. She is petite, but I amwas too, so I've never been massively concerned.

She's always been fairly fussy, but we've managed her eating fairly well. She would not eat a massive variety but would eat mince, so we could make cottage pie, spah Bol, meatballs etc...

But then she stopped liking mash; so we allowed the mince and booked potatoes. It wasn't any extra work.

But now she's gone off mince, and near, and cheese sauce.

Basically we're downtown chicken and potatoes. Preferably in the guise of chicken nuggets and chips; but also as roast dinner and any variation really.

I've had enough of the food refusal and her lack of eating.

It makes tea times a pain.

So I'm coming down hard.

I cook dinner; you either eat it or go and get bread and butter.

But I know she'll just not eat.

AIBU

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maddening · 23/06/2014 22:07

It sounds like the reflux may have helped to cause this.

I would see the gp - when she goes off a food does she say why she doesn't want it? I have ibs and if I eat too much of one thing it can start triggering my symptoms - I often wonder whether I become intolerant as I am quite allergic in other ways eg asthma and hayfever - anyway if she had a sensitive system with the reflux could she be getting discomfort and associating it with certain foods?

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Looseleaf · 23/06/2014 22:13

Yes I think that sounds lots too. Dd is 7 &had a piece of gluten free bread with butter, lunch at school (eg Monday is often jacket potato with sweet corn and dried mango ), a satsuma, small cup
of pomegranate and 2 slices of GF pizza with extra cheese. And water. She does normally have more veg eg likes raw pepper/ carrot! The last time she saw a nutritionalist they said she was the perfect weight

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CheerfulYank · 23/06/2014 22:14

Mine is nearly 7 and he's had:

Crackers and cheese
Grapes
Scone he shared with DD
Salami
Slice of bread w/peach spread
Pickled peppers and carrots

I'm six hours behind you though so he hasn't had dinner yet...he'll probably have a taco (or two if he's hungry after baseball) with cheese and avocado, broccoli, and a plum.

He is really big for his age, about the size of a nine year old, and eats like a horse. :)

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Looseleaf · 23/06/2014 22:14

(The dried mango I mentioned was for after not on the potato btw(!) as I send her puddings in due to her wheat allergy)

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OutragedFromLeeds · 23/06/2014 22:15

I would cook for DS and you/DH and give DD the choice of eating the same as DS or making something herself. I wouldn't restrict DS to her fussy diet and I wouldn't be cooking 3 meals. She's old enough to knock up a sandwich/toast for herself. She'll need guidance with eggs/potatoes etc. but she should be able to manage most of it.

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OutragedFromLeeds · 23/06/2014 22:17

I'm not sure everyone listing what/when their child eats is particularly helpful. It varies massively from child to child. The OP knows her DD best.

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BravePotato · 23/06/2014 22:37

sounds like you are doing the right things anyway OP.

My DS was always top percentile for height (95th) and hovering around underweight.

He has got tummy bugs twice where he lost weight so quickly he and to eb hospitalised on a drip.

That kind of made me determined to NOT make food a battleground, and that it was not about stubbornness that and to be "broken" but about trying to understand his issues, with patience (which I faked! inwardly tearing my hair out). Age 7 was bad. (that as the Christmas he was in hospital).

Very gradually he has changed. Bit by bit. No pressure, but we would do that MN middle class thing of sitting down and having dinner together, as a "pleasurable" event, no TV on. In front of the TV he would be so absorbed food came second. We all eat the same thing most days (and that is NOT chicken nuggets as I hate them)

He is now 11 and eats most things, and also eats a lot more. Still no fat on him but he looks (and is) stronger now.

Good luck. Remember, your DD is not doing this to annoy you or test you. She genuinely has food issues that only you can help with.

By modelling your own eating behaviour she will get a better idea of what is "normal". Eating together in this case is probably a good idea.

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CheerfulYank · 23/06/2014 22:39

I sometimes feel mine aren't eating enough Leeds and then I realize I'm comparing it to what I eat. I think we're just trying to reassure OP that she's eating just fine for a 7 year old, but you're probably right! :)

OP I personally wouldn't pander to her pickiness but food fussiness is a pet peeve of mine.

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OutragedFromLeeds · 23/06/2014 22:48

My 6 year old eats masses more than the OP describes or what you've described. He's average height and skinny. He's different to your DS and the OP's DD. If he was eating what your DS was eating, it wouldn't be enough, for your DS it is enough. They're different. If the OP is sure her DD isn't eating well, chances are, she's right.

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Hakluyt · 23/06/2014 22:49

I'm getting a bit confused now, OP. Are you saying that you don't think that's enough food?

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cosikitty · 23/06/2014 23:05

OP, your dd is 25th percentile for height, but 50th for weight, doesn't that make her plenty heavy enough, possibly even overweight?
Sounds like she is eating plenty, especially if she is short for her age.
Agree with providing a healthy meal and letting her go hungry if she is being fussy.

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GreenPetal94 · 23/06/2014 23:08

I suggest serving up small meals within the range she has once liked and if she doesn't want that then just move on to dessert. Without really saying much.

We did this with ds2 when he was fussy (4 to 6 years) and in the end he is a great eater and eats most things. dh, ds1 and I all ate everything in front of him and in the end he just copied. I still remember my amazement when he picked up the "yucky broccolli" and bit off a huge chunk. But alternatives didn't exist, apart from choice of cereal or what to spread on toast.

What I didn't do was refuse desert or snacks if he didn't eat, as otherwise calories would have got too low. Also you don't want to get into bargaining. You just want a quiet but definite assumption that only one meal is served in this household.

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QueenQueenie · 23/06/2014 23:14

You need to take a deep breath imo op. Enough with the seething and the hard line approach. You really don't want to make food an emotive issue / a battle of wills. When you described her eating over the course of a day it sounds a decent amount and a variety of stuff. You can't MAKE her an adventurous eater through sheer force of will and you will damage your relationship if you insist on trying. Step back a bit and see the bigger picture.

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Happydaysatlast · 23/06/2014 23:17

Op do high know what.

All of mine have been fussy eaters. I spent hours and hours worrying about what to give them, whether to be strict it go with the flow amd over the years have done both.

Ff now they are 23.22,15,14 and yet slim fit and eat most things.

Life is too short to worry about food. Honestly. As long as they eat something that's fine.

Far far bigger worries at sea Grin

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Sidthesausage · 23/06/2014 23:46

She isn't tiny. She's quite stocky/quite heavy for her height - 50th percentile against 25th. Two of my DC are on the 50th percentile for height and weight and they are far from skinny despite being perfectly average and muscular.

Your DD basically has two breakfasts, all her lunch plus more then substantial snacks. Then really isn't all that hungry by tea time but who would blame her after all that food.

Can you give a banana or a biscuit after school - not both. She doesn't need both and needs to work up some hunger for tea. Seriously if she's not eating tea, she doesn't need snacks.

Stop fussing over her too much. You need to cook a family meal and then let her choose to eat it or not without pressure. Don't offer alternatives and don't discuss the food. If she doesn't eat it tell her its fine and you will save it for later just incase she is hungry. Then chill out and chat about your day. Don't pester.

I have two tiny DC's - properly lean (think 15th percentile for height and under the bottom percentile for weight. They eat anything in small amounts and are as fit as fiddles. It wouldn't occur to me to pester them to eat as they are the natural size for them.

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Sidthesausage · 23/06/2014 23:53

My 6 year old today has had ...

  • 1 egg omelette with veg for breakie
  • apple as a snack about 10
  • lunch consisting of one wholemeal roll (tuna and cucumber inside it), water, tangerine, very small lump of cheese
  • snack after school - a lolly she made from fruit juice yesterday
  • early tea - small salmon with herbs, veg, some home made potato wedges
  • pudding - Greek yogurt
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catsrus · 24/06/2014 00:06

She certainly seems to be eating enough imo - and i agree with all those who say to relax about it.

If you're worried about getting her to eat a greater variety you might try a bit of reverse psychology - eat with them but eat something different and healthy - or add some interesting and healthy veggies to your meal (eg sautéed red cabbage with onion, apple and garlic). When asked what it is you say "it's ..... I love it but it's a very gown up taste, I don't think you two will like it". If they demand a taste you say "only a tiny bit, because I've only made enough for me and I don't want it wasted". Just keep doing that - eat stuff yourself that is interesting so that they have to ask what it is. (nettle soup, pizza and pasta are all still family favourites now even they are adults).

Mine all went through the nuggets and chips phase (it's very common) and that was the way I got them to begin to be adventurous - contrary little beasts, small children Grin. Of course the downside is that you'll produce young teenage foodies who drop smoked salmon and jars of sunblush tomatoes into the shopping basket - and try to convince you to switch to shopping at M&S and waitrose because the food there is more interesting than the co-op.

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mawbroon · 24/06/2014 00:16

Somebody mentioned tongue tie further down the thread.

This, plus reflux was the root cause of ds1's fussiness. I had no idea that he was suffering from reflux until he complained one day when he was around 6yo of a burning in his chest. Looking back, he had probably been suffering it for a long time but there had been no visible symptoms.

His tongue tie was a hard to spot posterior one. It meant that the back of his tongue was restricted and he was unable to chew and swallow properly. He was also swallowing down a lot of air which would come back up and bring the stomach contents with it.

The doctors were useless and just handed out medication and gave me the Hmm face when I said I thought it was related to his tongue tie.

I dug and dug for information and finally found people who could help. 20 months or so on, he is still a bit fussy, but nothing compared to how he was before we had his tongue revised aged 7yo. He has also had orthodontic treatment to expand his narrow palate and wears headgear to bring his upper jaw forward, opening up his nostrils. He now can breathe through his nose when he is chewing and doesn't swallow so much air from mouth breathing and eating at the same time.

When I realised there was an underlying cause, I was really glad that I had not listened to the "he'll eat when he's hungry" brigade.

There are pics on my profile of his tongue/mouth, but appearance can be deceptive. It's all about the function of the tongue. How did milk feeding go with your DD zumby? I'm guessing it was not straightforward if she was failure to thrive Sad

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MexicanSpringtime · 24/06/2014 04:41

You have my sympathy, my daughter was like that, I wasted more food throwing it away. And she was slightly chubby so everyone assumed that she ate well.

She just kept on adding to the list of things she didn't like until I ended up giving her chips every day for nearly a year when she was eight, much to my horror.

Then she started to widen her interest in food again. She started eating more and a greater variety and slimmed down. Nature is strange.

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Celestria · 24/06/2014 04:58

Another fussy eater here. Mine is nine years old and also had silent reflux as a baby. The foods she refuses are similar and I know without a doubt with my dd it is all about the texture. She doesn't like rubbery textures at all. She also has Aspergers. She is also very lean.

Cut the afternoon snack and push dinner back. Make sure she is properly hungry. If she doesn't eat she doesn't eat. Don't engage at all. Soup and sandwiches is perfectly fine for dinner. I have four dc and I will not cook separate meals. So I make sure that some days are meals she likes others are tough luck days Smile

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MollyWhuppie · 24/06/2014 17:18

I think people really get their knickers in a twist unnecessarily about fussy eaters, and people can be incredibly judgmental about it.

It is completely normal for some children to go through this and they do come out the other side. By far the best thing to do is ensure that she still gets offered plenty of meals and things that she likes alongside the odd thing she may not be keen on.

I don't believe fussy eaters are a product of their parenting at all . I speak as an ex fussy eater myself with a sibling who ate everything. My mum just used to give me foods I liked and adapted family meals so I could still eat, and I gradually started trying new foods at around 9 or 10. I now eat absolutely everything, am a healthy weight, and really love cooking exotic food!

My only advice would be: stop stressing! Force feeding/offering only meals you know your daughter won't enjoy is not the answer!

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windchime · 24/06/2014 17:31

She eats all of her packed lunch, which today is cheese wrap; salami; olives; tinned peaches and a smoothie. I normally meet her from school with a banana and a biscuit.

Blimey, I wouldn't want an evening meal after that lot Confused

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