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To think there's life after getting a 2.2

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GladToBeGlobal · 20/06/2014 13:50

It's that time of year again. I've been consoling lots of students who've narrowly missed out on their 2.1 or their First. I really mean it when I tell them a 2.2 is still an achievement and a valid qualification. Unfortunately many people out there in the world think differently. Sad

Please tell me your stories of success in life after a disappointing degree result.

OP posts:
Pumpkinpositive · 20/06/2014 15:21

I got a 2:1, then a distinction for Masters.

Never in the 14 years since have I ever - even for "graduate" posts - been asked to actually evidence my academic qualifications. I may as well write on the application that I have an Oxbridge First in Astrophysics. Confused

My vocational qualifications I'm asked to evidence all the time.

BreeVDKamp · 20/06/2014 15:23

I didn't even go to uni so they've got more than I have, qualification wise!

Numanoid · 20/06/2014 15:28

I graduated less than a year ago with a 2:2 (missed out on a 2:1 by 0.5%, and only due to many issues with supervising lecturer which is a story in itself). At first I was convinced my career prospects were ruined, but as other posters have said, not one prospective employer has asked for my degree clasification. I wasn't asked for it either for the job I'm in now.

To be honest, I think more emphasis is placed on experience, especially for my degree discipline, which is tough in itself as everywhere seems to want experienced staff but nowhere is willing to give you that experience!

It is definitely not an obstacle though, and I plan to do a Masters in the next few years (and the course I want to do, from one of the top universities in this discipline, will consider applicants with an ordinary degree as well). :)

Numanoid · 20/06/2014 15:30

I agree with pumpkinpositive, always asked for evidence of vocational qualifications, but only once have I been asked to bring a copy of my university grades!

FreckledLeopard · 20/06/2014 15:34

I think it depends on the prospective employer. I trained at a Magic Circle law firm and they had very strict entry requirements and you had to provide proof of all qualifications (from A-levels to degree). I think a lot of top graduate employers will insist on a minimum 2:1 degree and demand proof.

However, I'm sure a lot of smaller employers don't worry so much.

sittingatmydeskagain · 20/06/2014 15:36

Dh was gutted when he got a 2:2 in law. His parents were furious. It knocked his confidence for a long time.

Now, he's an in house lawyer for a multi-national company in the City.

The main reason he got a 2:2 was because he had a fantastic social life, and his networking and social skills are actually more valuable than his actual grade.

whois · 20/06/2014 15:57

Nah a 2:2 is pretty useless if you want a graduate milk round job. Websites won't even let you apply with a 2.2 for a lot of jobs.

So it's not the end of the world, but it is a bit limiting if you had your heart set on accountancy with the big 4, banking grad schemes, retail grad schemes etc

whois · 20/06/2014 15:58

All the people saying 'well I have a third and no one bad ever asked for it' are completely missing the point that the world and employment market has changed.

My friend got a 2.2 and got a good job in the back office at a bank. At the time you didn't even need a degree (5 years ago). Now her team have a min entry requirement of a 2.1 degree.

FraidyCat · 20/06/2014 16:09

The British system is a mystery to me. I remember telling myself when I started my degree (outside the UK) that, unlike school, all that mattered at university was whether or not you passed and ultimately got your degree. I never aimed any higher than passing.

"Just passing" wasn't a trivial achievement, 50% of first year physics, chemistry and Maths students were failed, meaing they'd wasted a subject-year. Many of the people failing had top marks in the same subject at school. People who passed Maths were told not to bother going on to second year Maths Major (their were lesser maths courses for teachers and engineers) unless they intended to do postgraduate Maths. This put off enough people that relatively fewer failed second year. (There were maybe 150 people doing Maths 1 major, by third year we were down to a class of about 15.)

When I arrive in the UK a year and a half after graduating and heard people talking about grades, I wondered if I'd been mistaken about grades mattering. When people asked me about my grades I said I didn't know, that the system was different. I don't think it made any difference to my career.

My degree certificate says nothing about grades. You either got a degree or you didn't.

The only distinction I became aware of was that if you scraped a pass, you might not be allowed to continue in that subject. For example, I scraped second-year statistitics, and was told I couldn't do third year. (Had no such intention anyway.) I passed third/final year mathematics with quite a low grade, but could have gone on to do post-graduate maths if I'd wanted to.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 20/06/2014 16:10

I've just achieved a merit at masters level and have a good professional qualification. I got a job with a 2:2 that didn't really require a degree and got loads of professional experience, so now I have 10 years experience plus a professional qualification so I'm sitting pretty.
Opportunity, initiative and talent are far more valuable than a 2:1.

magpiegin · 20/06/2014 16:12

My husband got a 2:2 and went on to do a masters and phd. I was really lucky and scraped a 2:1 (I got 59.6%). We are both doing well in our chosed careers.

somewheresomehow · 20/06/2014 16:37

My dd got a 2:2 and is now teaching year 1.
If you look at it as if its a failure instead of a fairly decent degree then you wont get the position you want or aimed for. Its still a degree better than nowt

JohnFarleysRuskin · 20/06/2014 16:39

I got a 2:1 and came to nothing :)

Ifpigscouldfly · 20/06/2014 16:41

I've never specified on my cv that I got a 2,2 but hen I followed up with a masters that I was only just allowed on to so maybe no one cares ?

HatieKokpins · 20/06/2014 16:41

"All the people saying 'well I have a third and no one bad ever asked for it' are completely missing the point that the world and employment market has changed."

No we're not. We were asked for our experience, and we gave it. Of COURSE the world has changed. But there will still be life after a 2:2, regardless.

I got my degree in the middle of the insane housing crash and recession of the 90's. And I was in Liverpool, the most depressed city in the country at that particular time. It wasn't so very different to how it is now, actually. But there were still jobs - I've barely been unemployed since. My husband has a 2:1, and he's currently unemployed. My best friend has a first and a PhD, and hasn't worked in years. I'm not forgetting anything, thank you. Different people's experiences are different, and it's valuable to know that you can overcome difficulties, that's why the OP asked.

Even if you get a shitty degree in a tough economic time, you can get on with your life. Even make a success of it. You haven't failed at life by not getting the degree you wanted, even though it might feel like it at the time.

Ifpigscouldfly · 20/06/2014 16:44

Oh and this was 3 years ago.

littlejohnnydory · 20/06/2014 16:48

I got a first. My sister got a 2.2 - she's far more successful than I am.

littlejohnnydory · 20/06/2014 16:49

Only 5 years ago.

CuChullain · 20/06/2014 16:59

Got a 2.2 in engineering. Did not think it was quite the end of the world at the time but certainly felt I had put a dent in my career as I missed out on a place on many graduate schemes as they stipulated a minimum 2.1 . Managed to get a job with a respectable enough (although non blue chip) firm and once I started building up work experience and moving towards chartership it became less of an issue. Fast forward 15 years and I am now a freelance consultant on a six figure salary and very proud of my Desmond (Gentlemans / sportsman) degree

CabbagesAndKings · 20/06/2014 17:06

I got a 2.2 but given my circumstances during university, that was a massive achievement and I was lucky to get in in the first place

Still pisses me off in a way, because I was capable of at least a 2.1.

However, I had 3 years of studying something I loved and which I had always dreamed of studying.

My current job is low paid and technically unskilled, but the nature of it means that I have to develop confidence, a thick skin, and the ability to think on my feet. I am learning just as much as I did at university, though in a very different way.

I don't mind my 2.2. I fulfilled a dream, and though it didn't get me exactly where I wanted to be in the end, I have a long way to go yet and I'm enjoying the process of getting there

NoArmaniNoPunani · 20/06/2014 17:07

My sister got a 2:2 and is now a millionaire.

meringue33 · 20/06/2014 17:09

I got a 2:2 and so went back to do a taught masters the following year to build up my qualifications.

I then found a graduate trainee place very quickly and have an enjoyable and reasonably well paid professional career.

My friend from the same class who also got a 2:2 was out of work for eight months but eventually got an operations job at an investment bank starting on £25k. She quickly made megabucks and is now a semi-retired spin instructor. (We are mid thirties).

So fear not, kids :)

CabbagesAndKings · 20/06/2014 17:14

God, I'd love to be a semi-retired spin instructor in my 30s Grin

polishes degree

liquoricelaces · 20/06/2014 17:35

Well I can share the flipside of having got a first (double first at that!) and ending up a single mum on benefits with a severely disabled dd. We're unlikely to ever come off benefits as she needs lifelong care. I may be bright, hardworking and have a degree certificate to prove it, but it's never going to get me anywhere in the employment market, or cure dd's disabilities so I could even have a chance of going to work.

sinningsaint · 20/06/2014 18:01

DH got a 2.2 and now has a very good managerial job in a very large company. He is on double the average salary, not that the average is anything to go buy, we own our house and are comfortably supporting 2 DC's through uni. Fair enough we couldn't have ever afforded to send them to private schools or buy them brand new cars when they turned 18 but we have had things such as amazing family holidays across the world and the ability to live comfortably, but that is probably because I got a first and did jack shit with it!

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