To think Lady Gaga is disgusting (potential trigger warning)

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And glorifying rape?

She's never really been my cup of tea but when she first the scene I thought that she seemed less like a pop star packaged for male consumption than other celebrities. However, as time's gone on and her career has wained she appears to be pandering to any vile fantasies to try and cling to fame.

Her latest video, that was pulled, has been leaked. In it she is seen in a scene which seems to imply that she is about to be raped by R Kelly (The R Kelly with numerous allegations of child rape against him). This delightful scene is shot by Terry Richardson, another alleged sexual predator.

Even if these 2 we're not involved in the video it appears absolutely vile to me and does appear to glorify and even celebrate rape and rapists. His have we got to a stage where anyone would even think this was an acceptable video to make?

jezebel.com/lady-gaga-and-r-kellys-scrapped-video-was-literally-an-1593101999

BigBlock They didn't know she had married him, they falsified documents. He is just so vile.

All you have to do is search google for pictures of her during her songwriting days, when she was working with Pussycat Dolls etc. She had such a cute style then, I agree that she's just been marketed in a very different way.

I don't really know where female artists have left to go tbh, Miley straddling demolition equipment naked, Rihanna having sex with a chair, Gaga and all the 'dominate me' bullshit. Are men encouraged to do this to sell records? No.

Anecdote time: I know a girl who works with Rihanna (successful songwriter so has worked with other A listers), she told me that working with these women was supposed to be the holy grail, but the everyday reality is that they are shells of people. It's so sad that no matter how successful they get it still comes down to singing about or simulating what men can do to their bodies.

I think Adele is a good example to counteract the idea that all female pop stars have to be sexualised to sell music. She's incredibly successful and has never resorted to the stripping down to your knickers approach.

I like(d) Lady Gaga, but working with R.Kelly is a step too far especially with Terry Richardson. I would have said no thanks to that collaboration.

I can't bear her. She is totally contrived.

Saw her on Graham Norton and couldn't believe what a humourless dullard she was - banging on about her 'art'.

Since when was walking around in your knickers art?

Yep. She's jumped the shark - good video concept there Gaga! I used to like her a lot, but it's shocking how quickly she has declined both musically and in terms of seeming like a nice person. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out in years to come that she had a huge substance abuse problem at this point. She has lost touch with everything that was good about her, and she hasn't even been around that long.

"I believe in freedom of speech and art"

I just wish she didn't feel compelled to express this freedom in her underwear all the time.

I think allaya was living on her own with very little supervisilon iyswim yes apparently he was her producer and supposed to be looking after her creep

I cant remember who he was but a man did a living with gaga documentary all she went on about was her art its all pretentious bollocks isnt it,

It's such a shame - I like her and I like the way that she frees other young people to be quirky and celebrate their oddness. It just seems such a waste, for her to tip over into some very uncomfortable territory, she is very troubled. :(

R Kelly allegedly paid off his victims family. One of the victims dads apparently has a credit playing sax on one of his albums too.

blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2013/12/read_the_stomac.php

oh sorry it was bass. But same thing really. Bloke cant play bass, they just took the payoff (allegedly).

I LOVED lady gaga when she first came on the scene - there were some great songs on her first two albums (p-p-p poker face p-p poker face )

But it is blatantly obvious that she has exhausted her repertoire of songs and so is now having to resort to other things to
keep that attention going. But why oh why has she gone anywhere near R 'My minds telling me no but my body's telling me yes - bleugh' Kelly and Terry 'Lets put a 19 year old stark ass naked on a demolition ball' Richardson.

It is just making her a laughing stock, she is not different from the rest of them.

I do see where you're coming from so YANBU.
What i do think is BU is thinking that EVERY song lyric/video is about rape. Half the songs people think are about rape blurred lines I think are quite sexy. Each to their own I suppose. I do not condone rape or rapists. I really do not think EVERYTHING is about rape.

I really dislike R Kelly.
It was clear from the early 90's that he was a pedophile but he was popular and talented so people ignored it.

I was a fan of Aaliyah's. She was signed to the record label at 12 and R Kelly became her 'mentor' supposedly he insisted they spend a lot of time together working on her 'raw tallent'. There were a lot of rumours about something going on but it was all denied. He helped her write and record her album titled Age ain't nothing but a number which was released when she was 14.
Not long after she turned 15 it was announced that they had gotten married in a secret ceremony that her family didn't even know about, using a fake marrage licence that said she was 18, so they didn't need her parents consent.
But when everyone found out about it her parents had the marrage annulled.

We were nearly the same age and I was a fan of hers, it always seemed like he was controlling her and it made me uncomfortable, so i have always really disliked him, I just find him creepy and pervy.
It didn't surprise me in the slightest when it all came out about the many young girls he has abused and paid off.

The gaga video is twisted, but at least gaga is just a show she puts on, it's all about shock and disgust, that's her brand and the character she plays.

Miley Cyrus on the other hand just needs help,
has anyone seen the pictures of her in the thong backed onsie on stage bending over giving herself a wedgie and then sticking her tongue out while giving herself a front wedgie. It's really awful. (tmz article)

I do to an extent agree with you crayola but I think a line is crossed where you have a song where the lyrics hint at rape, a video that strongly suggests rape and is made with the participation of rapists (alledgedly). I think in that case its clear that rape is being used to market this song.

Crayola, I agree to an extent too - not every song is about rape. But isn't the argument there that the lyrics saying 'i know you want it' 'do what you want to me' etc are then part of a popular culture where young women don't feel like they have the final say on what happens to their bodies, and sexually coercive men have a handy stock of phrases normalised for them?

I saw a horrible series of photos where women held up placards with the phrases their rapists had used, which were identical to the lyrics in Blurred Lines. I couldn't find it sexy after that.

YANBU. I do like a lot of her music but I was horrified when I first heard that song (properly horrified, not exaggerated horrified BTW). This is the first I've heard about the video but it confirms my thoughts about the song.