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To ask which is best; working for private sector or public sector?

39 replies

superstarheartbreaker · 14/06/2014 00:24

Experience from those who have worked in both. I currently work as a teacher and I must admit I am in it mostly because the holidays are convenient with a small child. I am fed up with the ever changing goal posts, constant criticism and general crazy work load.
What other jobs could I do with an English degree and pgce which involve my skills being appreciated.
In teaching the students get the last word nowadays...even though I have a degree and they haven't even got their gcses yet. Hmm I'd love to go into more detail but I don't feel quite safe yet.

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hiccupgirl · 14/06/2014 09:56

I've worked in both. Spent 8 years working for financial companies in London before retraining as a primary school teacher.

Private sector - worse pay and hours but lots of perks....trip to Florida for sales conferences, 2 day meeting in Calgary etc. Crap holidays and I hated the money first attitude.

Public Sector as a teacher - better pay and holidays but constantly shifting targets and ideas, much more stressful and work way more hours. But love working with children and it not all being just about money.

Obviously it depends on the particular private sector companies or public sector jobs. Big financial institutions in London had lots of perks that a small outfit somewhere else wouldn't have.

MardyBra · 14/06/2014 10:15

Why is this in Aibu?

redskyatnight · 14/06/2014 10:24

I used to work in private sector, recently moved to public.

I've found the pay to be worse in the public sector, arguably condition are better though.

The public sector seems mired in bureaucracy and unnecessary process and I find it how frustrating how much time and money is wasted on unnecessary things. On the other side, the private sector company may have taken cost cutting too much the other way - we were understaffed (why employ 3 staff members when 2 people can work overtime to cover the same jobs) and had to justify every single item of spend (basic stationary comes to mind).

I don't prefer either, tbh, I think it's a shame that both sectors can't learn from each other more!

softlysoftly · 14/06/2014 10:44

Tricky I'm currently in public which is a lifestyle choice:

Public sector:

More job security
easier job
Shorter working hours
better HR policy/protection
better benefits in terms of pension and maternity etc.
more "worthy" work

cons -

Far far too much beurocracy and jobsworth money wasting lifers who would have been out on their arse eons ago in private sector.

Irritating levels of wastage of public spend
Poor pay
Poor progression planning
less challenges as you can't be innovative/entrepreneurial

Private -

Better pay
more challenging
Sense of achievement
better "perks"
More energy among colleagues
less whining from lifers
more career chances

cons -

Ridiculous workloads
no security
Poorer policy eg maternity
Can be soulless and money seeking in the wrong place.

So tbh the grass isn't greener either side its just what works for your life at the time.
more pressure

RuddyDuck · 14/06/2014 11:25

auntie, yes an unintentional typo (message to self - don't use touchscreens when half asleep) but very apt!!Grin

ShakesBootyFlabWobbles · 14/06/2014 15:08

On reflection, for my skill set, I am better off in the private sector

Public sector
Pro: better hours, annual leave, much better pension, not as pressured, lots of specialists and policy branch to take on difficult questions
Con: Limited promotion, slow payscale progress, bit boring, not commercial and no experience of being in business

Consulting in advisory firm
Pro: much, much better salary, rapid promotion, recognition, self management
Con: ridiculous workload, demanding clients and colleagues, constant pressure to meet targets and deadlines, expected to know everything

TucsonGirl · 14/06/2014 17:39

Public sector is the easy life. Private sector you actually have to be good at the job and the best at their job will make money far beyond what they could make in the public sector.

Auntimatter · 14/06/2014 17:52

Ooh, hello Daily Mail.

gamescompendium · 14/06/2014 17:55

I'm a scientist who works in the pharma industry but worked in the university sector in the past. I'd never go back to public.

Public: no job security, atrocious management, expectation that you have to travel round the world to progress.

Private: job security, much more interesting and rewarding work (currently working on a cancer drug that will be going into trials quite soon and a very promising potential blockbuster that I'm not going to describe because it has had a lot of publicity and would out me) recognition for your achievements, nice people to work with.

TucsonGirl · 14/06/2014 18:01

What do public sector people have for lunch?

About 2 hours!

EBearhug · 14/06/2014 18:12

It massively depends on what you're doing, I suspect. What sort of job, and what size employer and so on.

I've done exactly the same techy job (unix sys admin) for the private sector (large multinationals) and public sector. Pay for that in the private sector with that sort of employer is about double what I was on in the public sector, but I am quite well-paid for what I do; I could get even more, were I prepared to work in the City, but I could also be on quite a bit less if I were working for a smaller private sector employer. I'd probably also have fewer benefits and training and so on, but it really does depend on the employer. Maternity pay and so on is more generous than statutory.

In the government agency I worked for, I had formal flexible working, but I have effective flexible working where I currently am, and can work from home more easily, which also adds flexibility. I did have a final salary pension in my last job, but when it's based on a rubbish salary, that doesn't seem much of a benefit; people on other salaries in other positions might see things differently - length of service also counts, and I think not long after I left, they closed the final salary scheme to new entrants anyway.

One of the things I love about working for multinationals is that I get to talk to people all round the world every day - in comparison, I found the government agency rather parochial. They were all lovely people, but the buzz isn't the same. I like walking down the corridor and hearing all sorts of different languages. Some people hate it, I know.

I think looking at it from a public/private split is mostly a waste of time. You need to work out what's important to you (maternity pay may not be an issue, if you've got older children and aren't intending to increase your family, for example, but flexible working arrangements might be, for example.) You need to look at the conditions, pay and benefits offered for a particular job, the size of the organisation, where the job is based (my job would feel very different if I were based in one of the small field offices than in the large European HQ), holiday entitlement, the commute and so on. If you can, find out from people who are there currently how it feels - experiences vary between departments and the management people experience at that level. I would definitely recommend people to work for my company, but I really wouldn't recommend working in my department until they sort out a particular management issue by sacking the useless, bullying git.

moggle · 14/06/2014 18:12

Lol TucsonGirl! I've met people terrible at their job in both sectors. I certainly agree that people in the public sector who have been in the job for many years can be hard to persuade to work better or leave.

I'm also a scientist and agree public sector these days is worse than private. I've recently moved organisations - from public to public - and went from a decent contract to a terrible one. I think you're more likely to get flexible working agreed, so with small children it may be better (we have DC1 on the way), but people starting in the public sector now do not have any of these historic cushy conditions such as guaranteed annual pay increases, final salary pensions, generous annual leave, etcetera. However as far as I can tell all the negatives are all still there.

I don't think you can tar all public sector with one brush though. I work in a Departmental agency now, morale is terrible, no pay increases whatsoever for about 5 years now, and a host of other crap, plus a feeling that no-one appreciates the work we do as it isn't very 'cool' but is essential for biosecurity and disease control. DH works in a central government department in London and things are not so bad, morale is good and people are proud to work there. My previous job was at a 'non-executive agency' which got its core funding from the Treasury but was not linked to a department, and it was much much better -much more respect for science employees - and a better working environment which I think was because we were not dictated to by a Department. After I left it has moved to be part of a university and although my colleagues now have guaranteed pay progression, things like sick pay and redundancy payments are nothing special and they have lost the job security they used to have. I am sure borough councils, schools, job centres, etc all again have different pros and cons.

Dirtypaws · 14/06/2014 18:24

15 years in public sector, well paid, good pension etc but hated it. Left and went in to private. Less job security and money (although now back up to my old salary) but I much, much prefer it. Wild horses couldn't drag me back to public. Whingers, layabouts, red tape, no flexibility - obv not all but the culture was so ingrained it's hard not to get infected.

emsyj · 14/06/2014 19:21

Agree with everything softlysoftly said ^

I have made the move to a public sector job (also involving a career change) after ten years in the private sector. I now get paid less than one quarter of what I got paid 5 years ago but my life is a lot easier and it fits in with family life. I have a 4yo and an 18mo and I couldn't work and have the private sector career I had before - the flexibility I have now is priceless. It's also more relaxed and I no longer dread going to work or have a churning stomach as I approach the office. It's like an enormous weight of stress has lifted.

In a couple of years when my exams are over and I'm fully fledged, I will be able to change my hours to do school hours term time only. In another 15 years or so, when the children are at university/largely grown up, I would consider returning to the private sector for the much-improved pay and the faster pace of life, but not whilst the children are young - it's more important to me to have a job that I can compartmentalise and leave behind at home time.

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