To be worried that the word MYSELF might actually becone interchangeable with me or I?

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Yeah language evolves, but for farksake "myself and my husband went to the pub", "contact myself with any further queries" and so on.

This is an abundance of Wrong. And it hurts my head.

Didn't the OED add a new meaning to literally because of common usage of the word? This may happen to myself.

Myself is pissed off with the situation. What about yourselves?

English grammar has gone right downhill in my opinion, I blame the fruit shoots myself

Icimoi, no. I can arrange for myself to stay. You can arrange for yourself to stay. They can arrange for themselves. We could arrange for ourselves to,stay.

I cannot arrange for yourself or themselves, I would need to arrange for you or them, as you point out,( except, as mentioned above, if I were Irish and speaking dialect)

But since he was arranging for himself, he was, on this one occasion, at least, correct.

I mean, "Me went to the pub" is perfectly comprehensible and is common usage in some dialects.

I can honestly say that I have never heard anyone say that - "Me and Bill went to the pub", yes. People round here say that all the time.

"Me went to the pub" sounds like a sociable Tarzan.

Here in the US, there is definitely an over-utilization of "utilize" in non-scientific contexts.

Well that just comes down to the amount of pints me consumed in said Pub I think Last

Sociable Tarzan

I work with Estate Agents.

I sob quietly most days. it's a PANDEMIC I tell you.

:(

I delay responding to any emails that use 'I was told to speak to yourself to arrange....'

Sadly, most of those who misuse 'myself' and 'yourself' do so by copying other ill-educated middle-ranking polyester-suited management and the verbal poison will continue to spread.
Love this thread.
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DH was guilty of this to begin with..... I soon beat it out of him as well as binning all his clothes :) (He was allowed new ones)

I am still in charge of proof reading all outgoing important emails.
Currently addressing DSS's over use of 'like' although he is 10 so I cut him a small bit of slack.

Estate agents are a major offender.

Slipshod- no it's not right. You can make the arrangements yourself (ie. Without anybody else doing it for you) but you can't make arrangements FOR yourself. Yourself is a reflexive pronoun -so I wash myself, I hit myself on the head with a hammer. Its used to describe actions performed by you to you. (Crikey, hope I'm right and making sense!)

But now that song "all by myself" has confused me.....

Judd you are right and that's a very good explanation.

I LOATHE all this 'myself' business with a deadly passion. When I hear it used wrongly I feel like walloping someone with a tennis racquet.

My mil does it all the time. Just trying to sound more educated than she actually is ironically.Some ex-colleagues do it too on FB. Secondary school teachers too. PE though so what can you expect

I've certainly heard it in Caribbean variants of English.

Indeed, and so have I, come to think of it. Sorry. I didn't think of it because it sounds perfectly natural and normal in a Caribbean context. In other accents/dialects it would sound odd.

I was being unreasonably parochial.

I am CYRING at Sociable Tartan!

Tvym, Lil.

Please, no. We can not lose the I/me, she/her, he/him distinctions any further than we have done. It's a struggle trying to explain subject/object distinctions as it is!

Tarzan. Pschaw.

Judd thanks for the explanation. Might the example fit into this explanation though?

'• as the object of a preposition when the object refers to the subject of the clause:

They had to cook for themselves.
He was feeling very sorry for himself.'

And 'All by myself 'is covered here:

We use a reflexive pronoun...

• with the preposition by when we want to show that someone did something alone and/or without any help:

He lived by himself in an enormous house.
She walked home by herself.

In that nightmare of weird and competitive parenting, DS2's reception class bear book, one of the other parents dictated (letter by letter by the looks of it)the following for their child to write: 'Barty Bear* and myself had a wonderful time at...'

How I laughed. 4 and 5 year olds just aren't pretentious enough to make that particular mistake without their parents' help. Left to their own devices they generally go with 'Me and Barty' (which isn't correct either, but at least it is how they actually talk).

*name changed to protect the poor, innocent bear.

Oh thank God. I have found my PEOPLE! hugs every poster on this thread

So great to see that yourselves are on the same wavelength as myself about this most INFURIATING of grammar errors.

Coruskate - I agree, the "myself" usage comes from the "I" and "me" issue, I'm guilty "myself." ;)

My own deliberate grammatical error is in using "I" where it should be "me."
For example I'll say "X and I went to the pub" when I know it really should be "X and me went to the pub." The problem is "me" just sounds wrong to my ears so I use "I" anyway.