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Now it's a "requirement" that I attend my bank for an "annual review" ? (during working hours)

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AnyFucker · 09/06/2014 10:01

I don't want to, I don't need to. There is no problem with my account. I get an unsolicited call on my mobile asking can I attend next week. No, I cannot, I say and I will not. So, Mrs AF, you do not want any assistance ?. No thankyou, I shall decline and if you make it a "requirement" I shall be changing my provider. Thank you.

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Greenoes · 09/06/2014 12:32

Lloyds (now TSB - not even gonna start on that debacle) seem to have me on speed dial and are the only organisation that aren't put off by the "sod off, I'm on nights" greeting.

My branch is local to me but Bigtown Branch keep ringing me to go for a review there - I ask them why I would want to drive past my branch into a notoriously busy area (I'm looking at you, Trafford Centre) for a review that I don't want! Bigtown Dave suggested I might want to do some shopping while I'm there...Angry

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2014 12:38

DH had his credit card defrauded earlier this year. He was with Lloyds. A couple of weeks later he got a call from a third party to find out his experiences of how the fraud was handled and was he happy with it. DH went NUTS. He had no idea who this company was and he was very concerned about how they got his details. At first he was naturally very worried it was another fraud.

He used to work for a financial company and part of his job was data protection compliance. He asked them again who they were, they said they were doing something on behalf of Lloyds. He challenged them AGAIN saying are you part of Lloyds or a third party. They lied and said they were part of Lloyds but when he pressed them they said they were a company that provided a feedback service for a number of banks and were not part of Lloyds.

Though relieved they were 'legitimate', the reason DH was so pissed was that Lloyds had passed his data on to this company. Data protection law now states is that a company can not just pass your details on to a third party just because you happen to have an account with you. They have to have your EXPLICIT consent detailing the purpose of passing on your details. Since DH has never consent to his details being passed on to a third party for feedback regarding credit card fraud, they had actually broken the law. In total I think he was on the phone over an hour explaining what they had done wrong!!!

How can the average person protect their money when banks are giving out confidential and sensitive data to third parties who call unsolicited. Given that a lot of fraud is currently being done in this fashion its bonkers. How can you tell the difference between whats real and whats a fraud? Banks should not be calling you unsolicited full stop even if its from an inhouse call centre, unless there is a real problem such as a fraud, as it undermines the message never to discuss your banking over the phone unless you are 100% confident you know who are talking to.

After asking for a manager and speaking to a manager a Lloyds, DH got a grovelling letter of apology from them 2 days later saying they would review their policy (and save themselves being investigated by the ICO).

So I have little faith in banks. I think they are poorly training staff and they are deliberately flouting the law it in certain area to improve their business. They get away with it, because they count on the fact that the general public won't question and challenge them.

If you aren't happy with something over the phone, just refuse to talk to them, as you are following their guidance! They'll send you a letter soon enough if its 'a requirement'.

(I guess the feedback that Lloyds got in answer to whether DH was happy about the way the fraud on his credit card was handled was not very!)

IncognitoErgoSum · 09/06/2014 12:51

When the bank phones up, my favourite is when they tell me they can't talk to them unless I confirm my security details. I always point out that they phoned me, so they need to confirm who they are. I usually take about 10 minutes to explain that asking me to confirm my ID over the phone breaks what they tall me to do in letters... At least it is 10 minutes when they are not harassing someone else.

IncognitoErgoSum · 09/06/2014 12:52

they can't talk to me I meant.

AnyFucker · 09/06/2014 12:56
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dawndonnaagain · 09/06/2014 12:56

I pass them on to ds1 if he's with me. He's a bank manager. He soon puts them right! Grin

MrsMaturin · 09/06/2014 13:00

HSBC usually offer us a review in letters with endowment statements etc. If they suggested an appointment I would tell them to take a running jump. Who has that kind of time?

Greenoes · 09/06/2014 13:05

Redtoothbrush, that reminds me of last year when my Dad's credit card was cloned (Lloyds again).

My parents kept receiving automated calls on their house phone requesting that they ring the fraud hotline and providing a number. You hear all sorts about this kind of message being fraud so they ignored it for a while. After a few weeks, my Mum got sick of the phone calls and rang the bank to report what seemed like someone attempting to carry out fraud only to be told that it was, in fact the bank calling and that they needed to ring the number given on the automated service (actually, that my Dad needed to ring, they wouldn't deal with my Mum despite her being on the joint account).

I was staggered that the fraud department of a massive bank would use an automated notification system that is exactly the same as the "I rang this number and they emptied my account" stories!

Happy ending though - the bank was trying to notify them if some irregular activity on their account which they hadn't noticed - a very small payment to Vodafone (they are not Vodafone customers) them a huge transaction to somewhere in Hong Kong. All refunded and dealt with thank goodness Grin

BornToFolk · 09/06/2014 13:14

I'm with Lloyds and I went to one of those reviews and it was actually very helpful. They transferred some of my accounts to ones with higher rates of interest so it's made me money in the long run. The guy offered me one of those premium accounts that you pay for and get car breakdown cover and holiday and phone insurance. I pointed out that I don't have a car, take max 1 European holiday a year and never lose/break my phone. He said "fair enough" and dropped it. Grin

Maybe I got the only decent bank manager in the whole of Lloyds?!

Gowaygoway · 09/06/2014 13:20

I knew you were going to say Lloyds. I worked for them for 15 years and left because of all this hard sell crap. Our lovely customers were sick to death of us asking them to come in for a review (sell you stuff you don't need meeting) One ex-colleague who was in a sales role had a nervous breakdown due to the pressure he was under to 'perform'. Top, top management would always say 'sales through service' but the reality was sales through underhand means. Fucking arseholes.

BrokenButNotFinished · 09/06/2014 13:34

I'm with Lloyds and one time I went to the counter to bank a cheque - a little while ago - they told me I had to have a review as a condition of maintaining the account. I asked them where exactly it said that...?? My husband (registered with the FSA and working for a large North American insurer) suggested I ask them to point out where in the Banking Act it says that.

I have to top up my mobile via a cashpoint these days, as everytime I did it over the phone, my card was stopped. Once when I called to speak to someone at Lloyds about this 'fraud prevention' method, they said they hadn't been able to call me to let me know and ask if the payment was legitimate. I pointed out that they don't have a contact number for a reason - and everytime they have had one, they have abused it.

Crinkle77 · 09/06/2014 13:34

lloyds tsb as it was then always used to make me try and come in for a review. It is just a marketing ploy. I always just refuse.

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