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To wonder why men are so offended over use of the word "creep"?

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Rhine · 06/06/2014 11:00

Apparently this is the worst thing you can call a man, seriously there is now a "creep shaming" campaign on line to the and get women to stop using the word. This is obviously in response to "slut shaming" although I don't see how you can compare the words as " slut" is a slang word for a supposedly promiscuous woman whilst "creep" is a word women would use to describe a man who makes them feel uncomfortable. It's not the same thing at all is it?

I rarely meet men whom I'd call creeps, but when I do surely I have the right to express if they are making me uncomfortable? Why are some men getting their knickers in a knot over it?

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Wadingthroughsoup · 06/06/2014 13:54

Bruno, I always thought 'knob jockey' was a homophobic insult. ie, used to suggest the insultee is gay. 'Cause a jockey sits on a horse, so therefore a knob jockey sits on...

littlemslazybones · 06/06/2014 14:31

It is, as mentioned above, a ridiculous equivalence.

Creep tells you something about a perceived level of threat a man represents. I suppose a similar female gendered word might be bunny boiler.

I don't see anyone trying to reclaim bunny boiler. Maybe some women who like to make rabbit pie feel unfairly targeted by the slur but, on the whole, they keep quiet about it.

DenzelWashington · 06/06/2014 15:11

Pulling that is the conventional British meaning (synonymous with 'brown-noser' etc) and one still used. The meaning on this thread is a predominantly American usage (I think) that was always there before if firmly secondary but is now the most common meaning, at least on the Internet.

ThursdayLast · 06/06/2014 15:18

Well I would object to being called a slut, so why shouldn't a man be entitled take offence at being labelled a creep?

This whole 'shaming' culture is nothing more than bullying.

You can tell a man he is making you uncomfortable by simply saying those words -not wrapping them up,in connotations.

Golferman · 06/06/2014 15:35

Reminds me of a boss I had years ago, called him creeping Jesus as he always wore sandals and had this habit of creeping up behind you

calmet · 06/06/2014 15:42

But some men are creepy. some men do constantly try and break down women's boundaries. If a man is creepy, why shouldn't we say that.

ThursdayLast · 06/06/2014 15:48

Some women are promiscuous and others dress provocatively.
I don't think it's necessary to bundle them all up together in a catch all word like 'slut' though.

Or if you think calling a man creepy is acceptable, I have to assume you don't mind labelling women either. That's how I view equality.

calmet · 06/06/2014 15:50

Slut is a misogynistic term that judges certain ways of dressing or sexual beahviour.

Creepy is a term that is used to describe men who ignore women's boundaries, make inappropriate sexual comments and sexually harass. personally I think creepy is far too mild a word to describe men like this.

YouAreMyFavouriteWasteOfTime · 06/06/2014 15:53

exactly what calmet says.

spence82 · 06/06/2014 15:58

So what would you call a woman who ignores sexual boundaries and makes inappropriate sexual comments?

ThursdayLast · 06/06/2014 16:01

I think creepy is too mild a term for that kind of behaviour too calmet and of course I don't condone it either.
My point is based on the fact that the 'creepy' is a vague term. To some it means weird social skills, to others it means 'he harassed me'.

I can understand that a man might be upset at being accused of harassing a woman when he thought he was just asking her out.

Rhine · 06/06/2014 16:01

I don't know Spence. Maybe make one up?

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spence82 · 06/06/2014 16:05

Rhine I was just curious.

I've been on the receiving end of it from hen party's before. I won't lie it was terrifying

spence82 · 06/06/2014 16:08

Posted too soon but that was meant light hearted. I do think creep and slut have different interpretations but I think being labeled a nonce would be much worse as some one earlier stated.

Saying that though I do think creep is more negative than slut.

caruthers · 06/06/2014 16:16

For every right reason to call a man a creep there's another that just plainly isn't true and the word is used just to be vindictive and spiteful.

Rhine · 06/06/2014 16:20

You find hen party's scary? Really? I just find them embarrassing.

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calmet · 06/06/2014 16:24

When I actually start seeing men calling out rape jokes, sexual harassment of women and sexist remarks, then i will worry about men being called creepy inappropriately.

caruthers · 06/06/2014 16:25

calmet

Good for you,not all men are like that you know?

I suppose there's bad in both sexes.

ThursdayLast · 06/06/2014 16:29

I have a more do-as-you-would-be-done-by attitude.

spence82 · 06/06/2014 16:29

Rhine it was a joke. I did say it was meant lighthearted.

BrunoBrookesDinedAlone · 06/06/2014 16:30

Oh really Wading? I've never thought of it that way. But certainly when I've heard that used - on here a lot, incidentally - I've never noticed that implication being present. I've only heard it in the context of general twattiness-like wankbadger, arsehole etc.

I'm sure you're right though!

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