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to think this is really rubbish.

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newcastlebelle1 · 01/06/2014 13:52

So my sister is 60 and on jsa. It is approx 72 per week and she is struggling. The only jobs available seem to be part time 16 hour per week minimum wage jobs. Just discovered that as she is 60 she would be qualify for wtc. So I do calculator and after paying a contribution to rent and full council tax she would actually be worse off.
Aibu to think you should be better off working.

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catgirl1976 · 01/06/2014 13:58

YANBU

Wages are far too low compared with the cost of living.

Joules68 · 01/06/2014 14:15

A 16 hour contract could lead on to a bigger contract. That's always happened to me when I've taken part time work

grocklebox · 01/06/2014 14:23

There is more the working than money. There is getting out and doing something, not to mention the self esteem bump of paying for that contribution to rent with money you actually earned.

MrsWinnibago · 01/06/2014 14:24

Your sister would always be better off working no matter how poor the wages. She could get two jobs. My Mum is 68 and has two jobs.

newcastlebelle1 · 01/06/2014 14:46

The problem is the only jobs seems to have random shift patterns ehich make it hard to combine. My figure may not be exact but it looks like she would be £2 per week worse off which is not alot but add on travel and you are looking like £12 per week worse off.

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newcastlebelle1 · 01/06/2014 14:52

I bet your 68 year old mum also get a pension and didn't have to wait till 64 to get it too. mrswin. Added to the mix mild learning difficulties and a not fully cured eating disorder makes finding let Lone doing two jobs more difficult.
She has also put far more into pot have worked for probably at least 40 years.
Sorry didn't mean to drip feed. My post was a gut reaction to figures on entitleto.

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caroldecker · 01/06/2014 15:00

Can you put the figures down as it doesn't make sense to me

Birdsgottafly · 01/06/2014 15:07

""There is more the working than money. There is getting out and doing something, not to mention the self esteem bump of paying for that contribution to rent with money you actually earned.""

You can get that from voluntary work, as well, without the issue of such low wages/hours not giving you sickness protection.

House ownership is out of many peoples reach, rents are high, yet the only way some people if this age manage to work is because their living costs have come down after paying a mortgage for thirty years.

If you pay high rent all of your working life and have to move frequently, your options for welfare Independance lessen.

The changes to Housing Benefit don't make sense at all. I would love to know who they are benefiting .

grocklebox · 01/06/2014 15:09

How can you pay towards your rent with voluntary work?

Birdsgottafly · 01/06/2014 15:39

You ca

Birdsgottafly · 01/06/2014 15:43

Sorry, you can't but unless you earn enough to save, you only have to go off sick and you are likely to end up homeless.

Many of these MW, limited hours jobs don't have sick pay built in, so you can't pay your rent.

Voluntary work is still giving back to society, it is a safer bet for many than taking these jobs at that time if life.

You can end up costing the country more, if you do need housing (and other) services, rather than stay on the benefits awarded.

emms1981 · 01/06/2014 16:02

My dh came off job seekers any got a part time cleaning job, he was 50p worse off a week. We did get housing benefit but took ages, 16 hour contracts do not always lead to more! I worked in a shop when i left school 16 hours and no matter how hard I tried could never get more hours. I was there 12 years.

newcastlebelle1 · 01/06/2014 16:09

Jsa approx 72.
16 hour mw job 105 approx plus tax crs 35 approx. However now need to pay half rent and full council tax which is more than amount gained by working. Even worse if under60 as tax credits would apply.

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newcastlebelle1 · 01/06/2014 16:09

She already does 16 pw voluntary work which will never lead to a job.

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Birdsgottafly · 01/06/2014 16:52

No, I'm not saying it will, it's rubbish how many over 50's are unemployed.

The "Job Mother" is focusing on this issue this month.

It's a time of your life, if in good health you aren't hampered by child care issues, yet the work isn't there.

It isn't as much as a vote winner as getting Single Nums off benefits, though.

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